March 26, 20206 yr I know, it keeps the duties down. Aren't your bikes "made in the UK"? I have never badged my bikes as 'made in the UK' nor stick any flag on them. Even the logo is modest. Assembled yes but not made. I made the spec sheet and when the shipment arrives, screw the parts together.
March 26, 20206 yr I have never badged my bikes as 'made in the UK' nor stick any flag on them. Even the logo is modest. Assembled yes but not made. I made the spec sheet and when the shipment arrives, screw the parts together. So you really think the magnificent Whirlwind is made in the UK? Can you match the superb Dohiker on price and performance? These quality bikes with mostly, if not all, quality Chinese parts are really something else aren't they.
March 26, 20206 yr I see the Rambletta is £849, that's over twice as expensive at the incredible Dohiker at £389 and both are supposidly using quality Chinese parts.
March 26, 20206 yr More research shows that he truly remarkable, high Chinese quality, Dohiker bike has in total 66 gears, 52 at the front and 14 at the rear and is fully EAPC compliant in the UK. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Bike-Folding-Moped-Bicycle-E-bike-14-Wheel-25km-h-w-USB-Charge-Port/274317327881?hash=item3fde963e09:g:7oMAAOSwrpheaFe~ The Woosh Rambletta, costing over twice as much, has just 7 gears and is "UK and European compliant" but no mention of EAPC so it's not clear as to which standard it complies with. https://wooshbikes.co.uk/?rambletta Isn't that right Woosh? You ask me to provide this info so here it is, would you like me to continue with the comparison or are you going to respond to my answer?
March 27, 20206 yr Isn't that right Woosh? You ask me to provide this info so here it is, would you like me to continue with the comparison or are you going to respond to my answer? The Dohiker is 'made' in Poland.
March 27, 20206 yr The Dohiker is 'made' in Poland. You agree it's a fantastic piece of machinery then. The seller of the ultra fantastic Dohiker lives in Poland, that doesn't mean the bike is made in Poland does it. Here's one being sold from Germany: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dohiker-Folding-Electric-Bikes-Moped-Bicycle-E-Bike-250W-Motor-14-Wheel-25km-h/283416295998?hash=item41fced7a3e:m:maITLdkMnbp0zh7TrDaYUww Is that one made in Germany?
March 27, 20206 yr the seller lives in China, Shenzhen in fact, but the bike is 'made' in Poland. Just read the advert.
March 27, 20206 yr Exactly, the bikes use Chinese parts but assembled in Europe to avoid the tariffs. I'm surprised you didn't know about that, aren't you doing the same thing? Irrespective of where it's assembled, do you think it's using high quality Chinese parts and if so why is your Rambetta over twice as expensive?
March 27, 20206 yr why is your Rambetta over twice as expensive? As you know, battery is the most expensive component. my rambletta has a battery whose capacity is twice as large, using more expensive Samsung cells and I fitted a monoshock suspension fork instead of a U-tube. The basic material is the same, you can select what you like. So instead of saying this bike made in Poland/UK is rubbish, you said Chinese bikes are rubbish.
March 27, 20206 yr I think we all agree: Some poor parts (motors/batteries) are designed and made in China and very likely used on the Dohiker [*]Some good parts (motors/batteries) are designed and made in China and used by Woosh and many others [*]Some good parts (motors/batteries) are designed in Europe and made in China including Bosch [*]Relatively few bikes for European market are assembled in China (due to tariffs).
March 27, 20206 yr I think we all agree: Some poor parts (motors/batteries) are designed and made in China and very likely used on the Dohiker [*]Some good parts (motors/batteries) are designed and made in China and used by Woosh and many others [*]Some good parts (motors/batteries) are designed in Europe and made in China including Bosch [*]Relatively few bikes for European market are assembled in China (due to tariffs). Yes, that sums up my view exactly but Woosh seems to think that all Chinese bikes and parts are good quality.
March 27, 20206 yr Yes, that sums up my view exactly but Woosh seems to think that all Chinese bikes and parts are good quality. that's a distorted representation of my thinking. Some members usually make blanket remarks. Some are reasonably valid such as 'buy cheap buy twice' but some are just plain wrong 'Chinese bikes are rubbish'. It's like cookery. A good cook can make a decent meal out of cheaper ingredients but will produce outstanding result from high quality ingredients. There is always market differentiation, regardless of the country of origin.
March 27, 20206 yr Who has said that 'Chinese bikes are rubbish'? I have made the comment that 'It's just that many people prefer to buy cheap Chinese crap, and there's nothing wrong with that. ' Some members have chosen to misinterpret that, I wonder why???
March 27, 20206 yr I know you don't specifically aim at all Chinese e-bikes, but the words do have associative values. 'cheap Chinese crap ' sounds indeed like a generalisation.
March 27, 20206 yr I know you don't specifically aim at all Chinese e-bikes, but the words do have associative values. 'cheap Chinese crap ' sounds indeed like a generalisation. I was referring to some of the cheap crap bikes coming out of China. It's yourself who's made the generalisation. Would you prefer we didn't mention "cheap Chinese crap" at all?
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