May 24, 200916 yr It's true Rog that many just do as you and I do, use the throttle freely and enjoy the e-bike benefits to the full, these sport bikes being a different market. It does exist though as Cytronex have shown, a number of our members owning one, probably mostly "lone riders". There's always the age market though. There's been a few keen club riders who've stuck with the club runs or rendezvous as they've aged by adding electric, and a couple by extending still further into old age using recumbent trikes with electric power. One I know of named Bill, can't remember the surname, was still joining up with his club at a pub rendezvous on a Heinzmann powered recumbent well into his 90's and was an honoured member of the cycling club. From his early 80's he'd been using electric power to keep up on their shorter runs. So I think keen club cyclists are a potential market for these sport bikes and wider acceptance by clubs as their members find it tougher to keep up on hills due to age. A long range bike like that BH makes it much more possible, and club riders don't flinch at £1800 for a bike, often paying vastly more for their lightweight bikes. I get on fine with many of the club riders in my area, several waving greetings from seeing me regularly and one group stopped once to have a good look at my bike. I've found the standoffish ones are often the weekend pseuds, the really keen and capable club riders often being the most friendly. . Edited May 24, 200916 yr by flecc
May 24, 200916 yr Yes of course - I wasn't allowing for the older ones. If they've been club cyclists in the past, then they already have all the credibility they need, and there would be no problem having a little assistance to help them (us!) keep up. It's a shame that those who have been 'athletic' in their younger days pay the price as they get older - we tend to forget that the body is designed to 'run' for about 50 years and after that, like alloy rims, we tend to wear out! Having NOT been athletically inclined, but being short and fairly light, I don't have any joint problems at all, so it's just a matter of fitness. Exercise for me is really geared to having fun rather than obsession. And now, attired in the cycling gear I bought from Aldi the other week, I'm about to take advantage of the sunshine. I feel a little foolish - jeans and a jacket are cycling wear I feel more at home with - but I suppose I look respectable so I'll get used to it. We tend to get over conservative as we get older, don't we? Rog.
May 24, 200916 yr Having NOT been athletically inclined, but being short and fairly light, Exercise for me is really geared to having fun rather than obsession. - jeans and a jacket are cycling wear I feel more at home with All that describes me quite accurately too! It's probably my age that makes for the e-bike acceptance by the local club riders. If I was in my 20's or 30's and riding electric, they probably wouldn't be so uncritical! .
May 24, 200916 yr It's a shame that those who have been 'athletic' in their younger days pay the price as they get older - we tend to forget that the body is designed to 'run' for about 50 years and after that, like alloy rims, we tend to wear out! Rog. Ha Ha... First time I've been compared to an alloy rim. No wonder I feel tyred all the time. Must be the pressure..
May 24, 200916 yr Ha Ha... First time I've been compared to an alloy rim. No wonder I feel tyred all the time. Must be the pressure.. Don't tempt me - I can be MUCH ruder than that! Rog.
May 24, 200916 yr ' date=' post: 52695"']Hi Dynamic, My name is Phil and I'm from OnBike. Before you make up your mind, you may wish to also consider one of our new E-motion range of bikes? They E-motions use the Panasonic 250w pedelec motor system with derailleur gears etc and may be of interest - feel free to have a look on OnBike - The Electric Bike Specialists and browse the E-motion range. You would be more than welcome to come and try out the various models at either our Kidderminster branch or Presteigne branch. Any questions, just pop me an e-mail phil@onbike.co.uk or drop me a line on 01299 25 15 14. Best wishes Phil Director OnBike Ltd Thanks for the link Phil, the E-motion City Deluxe 700 is the style of e-bike that I have been looking for, however I think it is too late for me to place my order with you. 50-Cycles have got their systems working so I just have to wait. I can see myself purchasing a folding e-bike for my wife, she does not like cycling any more because it gives her problems with her knees. I will keep you in mind because I would like to visit Presteige - perhaps 2010:D
May 25, 200916 yr No problem Dynamic - I hope you enjoy your new eBike! Just in time for summer too (if we get one this year ) We have several folders and smaller bikes, so drop by and see us anytime - Presteigne is a lovely place. Phil Director OnBike Ltd OnBike - The Electric Bike Specialists
May 27, 200916 yr The other thing I forgot to mention was that the Gepida bikes had a Crank freewheel, meaning that the chain didnt move when you back pedalled, something I have never seen before. http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ed6h5y0PLJI/SgchV-8FC6I/AAAAAAAAAMg/GxwFWzqmLms/s800/S73F2879.JPG In there brochure they also had a folding electric trike, something else I had not seen before either. John My name is Aidan from Gepida UK, part of e-bikesdirect.co.uk and would like to thank the guys from onbike for the very well organised Tour de prestige. This was the first time we have ever attended this electric bike rally and were very impressed with the amount of people that turned out for this event. And the overall enthusiasm there was for ebikes. I don’t think I have ever seen so many home made bikes. And the Speed some of them could go..... We displayed our “new to the UK” Gepida Pedelec - Powered by a Yamaha crank drive system and Yamaha battery, Which is available in various frame sizes. It is European manufactured and is a very prominent brand in the German and Dutch Market. I would be very interested in people’s feedback or thoughts if they have test ridden the Gepida or if they own one. I would also welcome anyone to book an appointment for a demonstration with ourselves or one of our distributors. We have joined the forum today to put a face to the brand (so to speak) . So we can be informative about the brand and openly discuss issues. Please contact us anytime..... We are now starting to build a dealer network across the UK and are very keen to speak to those cycle retailers who are looking for an exciting new collection of ebikes that can be added to their current range, we will be offering an exclusive geographical area to you to service, Full dealer training is available with all the workshop manuals you could possible need. To become part of Gepida UK please feel free to contact us and we will be happy to help. aidan@e-bikesdirect.co.uk 01580 830959 Finally please watch for Gepida’s review in the next AtoB magazine......
May 27, 200916 yr Welcome to the forum Aiden, and best wishes for the Gepida brand in the UK. It's good to have a direct competitor to the Panasonic unit in Yamaha's new unit which should be more successful than their old bevel drive e-bikes. .
May 27, 200916 yr Welcome to the forum Aiden, and best wishes for the Gepida brand in the UK. It's good to have a direct competitor to the Panasonic unit in Yamaha's new unit which should be more successful than their old bevel drive e-bikes. . Hi Flecc, Thanks for your kind comments! We have been looking forward to participating in this forum and hope to be of some assistance to thoughs looking for the new Yamaha Kit on the Gepida bike.
May 28, 200916 yr You were right in one sense that the rotation is being sensed whether going backwards or forwards, and on many pedelec e-bikes back pedalling still enables the power. . Not the Wisper - it can tell the difference. I know you were not being specific, but it made me think and try it out.... I can imagine that otherwise there would be some entertainment value for anyone watching from a safe distance if you had 80% mode selected and the thing sitting in your hallway with the power on and you idly spun the pedals backwards by hand. In my case it would probably end up in the bathroom at the top of the stairs. Rog.
May 28, 200916 yr Yes, not all of them by any means. It was usually the older brush-motor e-bike designs where pedalling backwards still operated the motor in pedelec mode. Modern brushless motor designs like the Wisper and eZee models only seem to have sensors and controller setups which only sense forward motion and can't be fooled, though there could be exceptions I'm unaware of. .
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