April 29, 20224 yr Hi I have a rear vertical dropout with a Rim that a Quick Release but the dropout has been worm is there anyway I can put a thru axle instead as the quick release one seems to not tighten and therefore when I pick the bike up the rear wheel falls I'm currently down for anything (except Quick release) I really want something sturdy but what is possible with my situation for example what is my options for this problem
April 29, 20224 yr Would a "Ratcheting QR" be easier to tighten sufficiently? I've never used one, but they look likely to tighten more.
April 29, 20224 yr Best to keep all the posts on this to a single thread; opening a second one makes it confusing. https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/help-with-rear-dropout.43318/
April 29, 20224 yr Author Would a "Ratcheting QR" be easier to tighten sufficiently? I've never used one, but they look likely to tighten more. Would this work with with a racheting quick release ?
April 29, 20224 yr Author Would this work with with a racheting quick release ? Let's say I do buy this rachet QR how do I take off the both sides and ads that new adapter?
April 29, 20224 yr Could you put up pics of the frame droputs, and axle sitting in them without the qr?
April 29, 20224 yr Would this work with with a racheting quick release ? Like I said, I've never used them myself but they look like they might be able to tighten more than your existing QR axle - they look to me like straight replacements. Check compatibility with the seller? They might not actually solve your problem either. It'd be useful for those more in the know, if you uploaded photos as [mention=34503]matthewslack[/mention] suggested, and keep it all on one thread as [mention=19726]sjpt[/mention] suggested.
April 29, 20224 yr Author Done please let me know if I can convert in to a thru axel or anything really I just need to make sure that rear wheel is sturdy and will never come off I don't mind if I have to use the bolt on way.
April 29, 20224 yr The axle seems to sit well enough in the frame, both sides, all surfaces are a bit worn but I have seen worse. If it is possible to improve flatness on the contact surfaces that would help. The derailleur hanger does not line up perfectly with the axle, so there is limited room for the nut to sit on that side. I would be tempted to try a thick washer, big enough to cover plenty of frame surface on the drive side, and make sure you get plenty of compression in the QR action. Is the QR itself in good order, I have had one in the past that wasn't applying as much squeeze as it should. Go carefully until you are satisfied it is secure. I have no idea how you would convert to bolt through on a QR frame.
April 29, 20224 yr Sometimes QRs can't be tightened enough, because they need a drop of mineral oil - that sorted out my handlebar and seatpost QR clamps (very old, 2006). Perfect since. Before that, the seatpost kept dropping in the rain while I was riding lol. Edited April 29, 20224 yr by guerney
April 29, 20224 yr Drops outs look pretty worn to me, also brake side is missing a tension spring on the qr axle. The second pic the drop out face looks well mullered.
April 30, 20224 yr Author Drops outs look pretty worn to me, also brake side is missing a tension spring on the qr axle. The second pic the drop out face looks well mullered. What do you recommend that I should do?
April 30, 20224 yr If that was my bike, I'd: 1. Try oiling the clasp mechanism on the QR, to see if that increases tightening. Like I said, I've found this worked on a couple of my old QR clasps. 2. Add washers as suggested in post #10 (possibly anti-rotation washers, because they're thick and strong) to the outer surfaces of the dropouts. 3. If 1. and 2. didn't work, I'd consider trying a ratcheting QR axle, after checking compatibility with the seller. 4. If none of the above worked and if it wasn't too expensive, buy a replacement secondhand frame. Point 4. is perhaps a bit drastic! Edited April 30, 20224 yr by guerney
April 30, 20224 yr The axle seems to sit well enough in the frame, both sides, all surfaces are a bit worn but I have seen worse. That looks bloody horrible. You've seen worse? The second pic the drop out face looks well mullered. Properly munched for sure. "Mullered" says it much better.
April 30, 20224 yr Best to keep all the posts on this to a single thread; opening a second one makes it confusing. https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/help-with-rear-dropout.43318/ There will be new threads - there's another one...
April 30, 20224 yr This post might be of interest: https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/always-a-good-idea-to-inspect-cables.43317/post-650730
April 30, 20224 yr Author If that was my bike, I'd: 1. Try oiling the clasp mechanism on the QR, to see if that increases tightening. Like I said, I've found this worked on a couple of my old QR clasps. 2. Add washers as suggested in post #10 (possibly anti-rotation washers, because they're thick and strong) to the outer surfaces of the dropouts. 3. If 1. and 2. didn't work, I'd consider trying a ratcheting QR axle, after checking compatibility with the seller. 4. If none of the above worked and if it wasn't too expensive, buy a replacement secondhand frame. Point 4. is perhaps a bit drastic! Do you know what size Ratcheting QR axle will fit
April 30, 20224 yr Do you know what size Ratcheting QR axle will fit I'd find a seller and ask. And if it didn't fit after the seller had said it was compatible, I'd get a refund.
April 30, 20224 yr Which would I need? Is it the thin steel or the thick steel? Measure the one you have, double check with the seller - if you pay using Paypal, they will nearly always side with the buyer and issue a refund.
April 30, 20224 yr But if your dropouts are too worn, a new ratcheting QR might not sit straight when tighetend up, unless you add thick washers as mathewslack suggested in #10.
April 30, 20224 yr the 100x5mm one you cant use thru axles on dropouts as the other end screws in to the frame.
April 30, 20224 yr tho from the pics of those drop outs id say it is done its just worn to much and will just get worse as the motor axle is not even in the drop out and just sitting on the mech hanger and that is only held on with one bolt and if that falls out the motor will fall out the frame and big crash.
April 30, 20224 yr tho from the pics of those drop outs id say it is done its just worn to much and will just get worse as the motor axle is not even in the drop out and just sitting on the mech hanger and that is only held on with one bolt and if that falls out the motor will fall out the frame and big crash. Holy sh*t in that case Abzy should hold onto his money... Mind you, it does look to me like the motor on that side is resting on the frame dropout: Edited April 30, 20224 yr by guerney
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