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All in One hub kit from South Korea

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OMG 23.5Ah battery integrated in motor?

Interesting concept. Many pros and cons.

It's an absolutely terrible idea. The last thing you want to do is subject a cell-pack and all the wires to centrifugal forces. Every company that tried that has failed.

 

We had a couple of guys on this forum, who bought all-in-one wheel kits, and they both failed, and there were no spare parts.

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Zehus all in one hub kit from Italy must be a bad kit as well. Do not not hows these companies are so successful! Tens of million euro turn overs! They must be doing something right.

Do not not hows these companies are so successful! Tens of million euro turn overs!

 

Can you rephrase that please?

 

I cannot work out what you are saying ..............

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Zehus successful company , erun also a successful company list goes on with theses innovative ebike kit manufacturers
so they are successful because they are part of a big group or their product builds their success?
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Numbers do not lie , units sold and the big uptake of bike manufactures . You see these Zehus , Pendix systems more and more now in the UK.

Numbers do not lie , units sold and the big uptake of bike manufactures . You see these Zehus , Pendix systems more and more now in the UK.

they are niche products.

how do their numbers compare to the output of companies like Lishui, KT, Bafang etc?

they are niche products.

how do their numbers compare to the output of companies like Lishui, KT, Bafang etc?

 

...niche products which require the hiring of rabidly enthusiastic and unresponsive promoters on forums... :rolleyes:

Numbers do not lie , units sold and the big uptake of bike manufactures . You see these Zehus , Pendix systems more and more now in the UK.

I've never seen any of either on any bike being ridden in the UK, other than at shows, and I've seen a lot of ebikes. I look at every ebike that's around, and if it's anything unusual, I always talk with the owner. Likewise, if they're riding any bike that has reported issues, I always ask the owner if they experienced them. Some of them go like this: "How reliable is it". "Yes, it's been totally reliable. I'm very pleased with it". " How many motor replacements did it have?" " Ah yes, it had two, both done under warranty by the dealer really good quality service". 100% of the Suntour HESC bikes I asked about had cutting out issues. Many of the owners thought it was normal or just a quirk. It didn't bother them.

Zehus successful company , erun also a successful company list goes on with theses innovative ebike kit manufacturers

Hardly anybody wants these fancy systems, especially regen. All they want is a bit of power to get them up hills more easily or get to work faster. They don't care how they get it, but they do care about the cost and backup. They generally want a battery of at least 300wh. The Zehus 180wh battery is a non-starter for most.=, especially at £1200. The guy selling them on ebay has no feedback for the last 6 months, so he can't be selling many. Next!

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Hardly anybody wants these fancy systems, especially regen. All they want is a bit of power to get them up hills more easily or get to work faster. They don't care how they get it, but they do care about the cost and backup. They generally want a battery of at least 300wh. The Zehus 180wh battery is a non-starter for most.=, especially at £1200. The guy selling them on ebay has no feedback for the last 6 months, so he can't be selling many. Next!

 

You must be some sort of Oracle who knows what everyone wants and what they should get and you base on how well Zehus is doing in the UK and Europe on one ebay seller . Wow ok.

You must be some sort of Oracle who knows what everyone wants and what they should get and you base on how well Zehus is doing in the UK and Europe on one ebay seller . Wow ok.

That's right. I've been in the game a long time and I've talked to a lot of people and tried a lot of stuff, and I disassemble a lot of stuff to see how it works. That's how you find out about stuff. It's much better than reading promo stuff on websites.

If you have to carry a brick on your bike, the worst place to put it is in the rear wheel.

It makes the bike feel heavier than it really is. That's one of the reasons why all in one wheels will never be a big success. I can see a front wheel all in one solution making a moderate success for Dutch step through bikes but then, you will have to connect an external pedal sensor so it won't be an all in one anymore.

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Numbers do not lie , units sold and the big uptake of bike manufactures . You see these Zehus , Pendix systems more and more now in the UK.

 

No we don't.

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You must be some sort of Oracle who knows what everyone wants and what they should get and you base on how well Zehus is doing in the UK and Europe on one ebay seller . Wow ok.

 

Similar here. I was first in the trade selling, fitting and servicing kit assist motors to bicycles back in 1950.

 

Over 70 years of knowledge of the market that tells me that you are completely clueless on the subject.

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Lot of Zehus motors here in London, wrong again about trolling. London consumers maybe looking for something else .
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Similar here. I was first in the trade selling, fitting and servicing kit assist motors to bicycles back in 1950.

 

Over 70 years of knowledge of the market that tells me that you are completely clueless on the subject.

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No we don't.

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Here in London we do. where are you guys based outside London?

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If you have to carry a brick on your bike, the worst place to put it is in the rear wheel.

It makes the bike feel heavier than it really is. That's one of the reasons why all in one wheels will never be a big success. I can see a front wheel all in one solution making a moderate success for Dutch step through bikes but then, you will have to connect an external pedal sensor so it won't be an all in one anymore.

 

Batteries are becoming smaller and more efficient compared to the brick batteries that come out of china and so they can put them in the back no problem. Advancements aare becoming rapid , Gocycle miniature motor and small batteries , same power as old school batteries.

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Hardly anybody wants these fancy systems, especially regen. All they want is a bit of power to get them up hills more easily or get to work faster. They don't care how they get it, but they do care about the cost and backup. They generally want a battery of at least 300wh. The Zehus 180wh battery is a non-starter for most.=, especially at £1200. The guy selling them on ebay has no feedback for the last 6 months, so he can't be selling many. Next!

 

Some people want premium ebike kits nothing wrong with that , and more are coming on the market and will be more advanced etc Kits that are completely bluetooth , wireles just like all our gadgets we use

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That's right. I've been in the game a long time and I've talked to a lot of people and tried a lot of stuff, and I disassemble a lot of stuff to see how it works. That's how you find out about stuff. It's much better than reading promo stuff on websites.

 

Have you opened up a Zehus , Neodrive, Erun hub motor? If you have than you may comment on the quality instead just imaging its bad piece of kit.

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