Hi, I am a newcomer to E-Bikes and I am looking for a bike that can handle the cycle tracks on Wimbledon Common (they are gebnerally not too bad but there is some gravel and one or two bumps). I will be mainly using it for leisure cycling plus maybe heading to the local shops. I was initially thinking a hybrid with tyres with good grips, but now also considering a mountain bike and then adding on things like panniers, lights etc. Original budget was around £1,500 but might be willing to pay a bit more for a good deal. Current shortlist is as follows (prices are based on decathlon and Evans current listings):

Any thoughts gratefully recived

ROCKRIDER 27.5" Electric Mountain Bike E-ST 500 - Black

£1,399

CANNONDALE Tesoro Neo X 2 Electric Hybrid Bike

£2,149

ROCKRIDER 29" Hardtail Electric Mountain Bike E-EXPL 520

£1,899

Raleigh Motus Evans Exclusive Low Step 2021 Electric Hybrid Bike

£949

Do not buy bike with proprietary technology.

Conversion will give you best value for money.

 

All shortlisted e-bikes are very expensive.

https://wooshbikes.co.uk/?camino

 

https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/wisper-tailwind-city-low-crossbar-2024-electric-bike?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9PYUMmpkAYJk5M1Yr_AjJMrNNg20SCmFnut2NioOv-snxmLIBDrMxhoCuv4QAvD_BwE#172=8536&389=22818

 

https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/wisper-705-26-inch-step-through-2024-electric-bike?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9Fy3i6V_VT9-NchHiPcb5PvHsxv3Kr_69O3Qp-L6f9nnvyQK4giPBhoClxgQAvD_BwE#172=344&389=18249&414=20825

 

https://www.electricscooterslondon.com/products/eleglide-m2-electric-mountain-bike?variant=44804086038752&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2020-09-26&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9CahpfU_06hN9i1kgM-avOxKjOIK4FO_ZnPB4xUdBd6i2PIIjFSQjxoCwJUQAvD_BwE

Nearly any bike will deal with Womble common.

Get one of these while you can. They're about to sell out. It sounds perfect for what you want. We tested their other MTB (now sold out) and found it to be excellent:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3111006?clickPR=plp:1:10

https://wooshbikes.co.uk/?camino

 

https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/wisper-tailwind-city-low-crossbar-2024-electric-bike?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9PYUMmpkAYJk5M1Yr_AjJMrNNg20SCmFnut2NioOv-snxmLIBDrMxhoCuv4QAvD_BwE#172=8536&389=22818

 

https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/wisper-705-26-inch-step-through-2024-electric-bike?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9Fy3i6V_VT9-NchHiPcb5PvHsxv3Kr_69O3Qp-L6f9nnvyQK4giPBhoClxgQAvD_BwE#172=344&389=18249&414=20825

 

https://www.electricscooterslondon.com/products/eleglide-m2-electric-mountain-bike?variant=44804086038752&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2020-09-26&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9CahpfU_06hN9i1kgM-avOxKjOIK4FO_ZnPB4xUdBd6i2PIIjFSQjxoCwJUQAvD_BwE

Thanks Peter, I hadn't come across these before. I will take a look.

https://wooshbikes.co.uk/?camino

 

https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/wisper-tailwind-city-low-crossbar-2024-electric-bike?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9PYUMmpkAYJk5M1Yr_AjJMrNNg20SCmFnut2NioOv-snxmLIBDrMxhoCuv4QAvD_BwE#172=8536&389=22818

 

https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/wisper-705-26-inch-step-through-2024-electric-bike?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9Fy3i6V_VT9-NchHiPcb5PvHsxv3Kr_69O3Qp-L6f9nnvyQK4giPBhoClxgQAvD_BwE#172=344&389=18249&414=20825

 

https://www.electricscooterslondon.com/products/eleglide-m2-electric-mountain-bike?variant=44804086038752&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2020-09-26&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9CahpfU_06hN9i1kgM-avOxKjOIK4FO_ZnPB4xUdBd6i2PIIjFSQjxoCwJUQAvD_BwE

https://wooshbikes.co.uk/?camino

 

https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/wisper-tailwind-city-low-crossbar-2024-electric-bike?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9PYUMmpkAYJk5M1Yr_AjJMrNNg20SCmFnut2NioOv-snxmLIBDrMxhoCuv4QAvD_BwE#172=8536&389=22818

 

https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/wisper-705-26-inch-step-through-2024-electric-bike?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9Fy3i6V_VT9-NchHiPcb5PvHsxv3Kr_69O3Qp-L6f9nnvyQK4giPBhoClxgQAvD_BwE#172=344&389=18249&414=20825

 

https://www.electricscooterslondon.com/products/eleglide-m2-electric-mountain-bike?variant=44804086038752&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2020-09-26&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxNW2BhAkEiwA24Cm9CahpfU_06hN9i1kgM-avOxKjOIK4FO_ZnPB4xUdBd6i2PIIjFSQjxoCwJUQAvD_BwE

Hi Peter, thanks for your advice. I haven't come across these before - they look interssting. Why do you think they are better than the ones that I have shortlisted?

Get one of these while you can. They're about to sell out. It sounds perfect for what you want. We tested their other MTB (now sold out) and found it to be excellent:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3111006?clickPR=plp:1:10

Wow - that is cheap! Ive been advised to avoid deals that look to good to be true! Range of 18 miles not likely to be enough. Any other thoughts?

Wow - that is cheap! Ive been advised to avoid deals that look to good to be true! Range of 18 miles not likely to be enough. Any other thoughts?

https://www.pswpower.com/products/eu-no-tax-electric-bicycle-battery-hailong-g70-18650-cells-pack-48v-13ah-48v-145ah-48v-175ah-lithium-ebike-battery-fits-1000w-motor-bafang-tsdz2-ton-192

Thanks Peter, I hadn't come across these before. I will take a look.

 

 

Hi Peter, thanks for your advice. I haven't come across these before - they look interssting. Why do you think they are better than the ones that I have shortlisted?

Woosh and Wisper are both UK based. Both sell excellent, well priced products. Both have an excellent after-sales service. Both are friends of this forum and both regularly post here.

Wow - that is cheap! Ive been advised to avoid deals that look to good to be true! Range of 18 miles not likely to be enough. Any other thoughts?

My advice would be to get one while you can.

My advice would be to get one while you can.

I had a WTF moment and went to buy one... they had them 2 days ago when I checked, but they're now out of stock. No surprise really.

I had a WTF moment and went to buy one... they had them 2 days ago when I checked, but they're now out of stock. No surprise really.

That's a shame. As he said, you have to be suspicious when things are too cheap, but on the other hand, you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. We did tell him that we tested their cheaper one, and it was excellent.

It is still in stock in Newcastle - but not much use if you don't live near there.

I had a WTF moment and went to buy one... they had them 2 days ago when I checked, but they're now out of stock. No surprise really.

still available in oxon too

Still available in Wiltshire.

still available in oxon too

thank goodness both this and the £245 folder are finally out of stock.. I dont need another ebike but the bargain hoarder in me was itching for a fix.. Hope all that got a bargain are happy with their new bikes and thanks for removing the temptation

 

You're itching to buy one aren't you?

Edited September 4, 20241 yr by guerney

You're itching to buy one aren't you?

Yep.. but i really dont need one nor do i have the room for another bike as the current 3x take up all the available space at the front of the garage. but bargain toys are hard to resist..

Yep.. but i really dont need one nor do i have the room for another bike as the current 3x take up all the available space at the front of the garage. but bargain toys are hard to resist..

I had that itch yesterday and actually tried to order one. But don't relax just yet... I went into Argos this morning and they say there are some still kicking about that (for me anyway) can be shipped into and collected from Sainsburys (but they can't do home delivery in my area because they source it from an out-of-the-area distribution/warehouse). Then sanity returned and decided I too have 3 e-bikes already, and this Argos one looks like it would need a larger freewheel, mechanical to hydraulic brakes, and likely a change of controller and display to make the best out of it... and I have enough projects going on already.

 

They were also of the opinion that they're only discounted/on "clearance" to make space for the new models about to arrive (it's not just bikes).

Yes its also a local sainsbury's collection here too..

 

Ha- when the £245 folder went out of stock.. (if public transport was more ebike friendly a towable folder might provide joined up no car transport options. ) - i panic bought a 24v £180 offering..

 

Then the following day woke sane and tried to cancel over the phone.. But my ref no did not register so after many repetitions i got a bit frustrated and made up a number.. and on my 2nd guess it got me through.. not to the expected rep but to another recording telling me my order was cancelled!! and bye..

So i cancelled some random Argos order, after typing in a string of not remembered numbers ..

 

But I tried my order# again and now?? it went through.. (btw i did have glasses on and had verified the order number from both the argos site and emails- AND it looked good on the display as entered??.. My working theory is my landline phone has some case shifting/caps-lock? feature i fumbled on and off picking the thing up, but??

 

So Yeah.. I too have had my moments of weakness..

 

I will try n make do living vicariously off the joy of folk who have both a need and use for another bike and grab a bargain and post in here about it..

I didn't really need my argos folder because I already have a perfectly good ebike conversion with many better features. I fell into that ape like tendency to just grab at the fruit that looks too easy to miss (easy = ridiculously cheap).

 

However - I am very pleased with what I got for what I paid.

 

Now up to 146 logged and measured miles and still grinning as I ride it.

So Yeah.. I too have had my moments of weakness..

 

It is not a weakness. It is a disease.

I have shed full of bikes. So I bought a smaller Keter shed where I managed to put one more bike. One bike lives permanently in my house.

As far as I can tell, you are still in early stages. Contact your GP, maybe they will prescribe you antibiotics or something. There still might be some hope for you.

I had that itch yesterday and actually tried to order one. But don't relax just yet... I went into Argos this morning and they say there are some still kicking about that (for me anyway) can be shipped into and collected from Sainsburys (but they can't do home delivery in my area because they source it from an out-of-the-area distribution/warehouse). Then sanity returned and decided I too have 3 e-bikes already, and this Argos one looks like it would need a larger freewheel, mechanical to hydraulic brakes, and likely a change of controller and display to make the best out of it... and I have enough projects going on already.

 

They were also of the opinion that they're only discounted/on "clearance" to make space for the new models about to arrive (it's not just bikes).

The pedal speed is not bad because it has 28" wheels. The problem with the folder that requires the gearing to be changed is that it has the same 14T top gear in a 20" wheel. The gearing was fairly well matched on the one that had the Hailong battery and 27." wheels.

Yes its also a local sainsbury's collection here too..

 

Ha- when the £245 folder went out of stock.. (if public transport was more ebike friendly a towable folder might provide joined up no car transport options. ) - i panic bought a 24v £180 offering..

 

Then the following day woke sane and tried to cancel over the phone.. But my ref no did not register so after many repetitions i got a bit frustrated and made up a number.. and on my 2nd guess it got me through.. not to the expected rep but to another recording telling me my order was cancelled!! and bye..

So i cancelled some random Argos order, after typing in a string of not remembered numbers ..

 

But I tried my order# again and now?? it went through.. (btw i did have glasses on and had verified the order number from both the argos site and emails- AND it looked good on the display as entered??.. My working theory is my landline phone has some case shifting/caps-lock? feature i fumbled on and off picking the thing up, but??

 

So Yeah.. I too have had my moments of weakness..

 

I will try n make do living vicariously off the joy of folk who have both a need and use for another bike and grab a bargain and post in here about it..

Basic rule of reality: The number of ebikes you need is n+1, where n is the number you already have.

It is not a weakness. It is a disease.

I have shed full of bikes. So I bought a smaller Keter shed where I managed to put one more bike. One bike lives permanently in my house.

As far as I can tell, you are still in early stages. Contact your GP, maybe they will prescribe you antibiotics or something. There still might be some hope for you.

 

- IM in Recovery .. TLDR - My dream home brewery inc kegs and chilled dispensing and custom wifi control system. Just as i was finishing off the electric circuits after a complete refit of the brewshed.. And a health issue manifested. Ive not been drinking since.. ..

- IM in Recovery .. TLDR - My dream home brewery inc kegs and chilled dispensing and custom wifi control system. Just as i was finishing off the electric circuits after a complete refit of the brewshed.. And a health issue manifested. Ive not been drinking since.. ..

That's tough. I have an idea, though: Why don't you invite us over to try out your bar, then we can tell you how good it is, so you don't need to drink anything yourself? See - every problem has a simple solution.