The stub is buried behind the rest of the loom usually Nick, just below the battery platform, but there have been a lot of small variations during the Torq's life. I've never received a mention of a missing stub via my Torq site though, so it could be yours is non standard.

 

Alternatively, the insulation on the stub has varied from time to time, sometimes red, sometimes black, so another variation is that your three stub wires might have been bound as one into one of the loom sections, and so are hidden.

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eZee Torq speed de-restriction

 

Hi,

 

I like to clear an issue here.

 

1) In a conflict of interest between what customer or the market likes and what is legal. eZee takes the legal way, this is absolutely essential for long term consideration. This is not neccessarily the same for 50cycles, they like just to "sell" that is it. Sometimes we give way to the pressure, but this time I say "no". Specification has been clearly informed and advise. If they don't pay attention and there is nothing I could do with what 50cycles writes on their website.

 

2) The police would not be monitoring the bike speed, but what is someone got into a serious accident, and an investigation starts from there ?

 

3) The controllers are the same for the US+Canadian vs EU market. The motors are wound differently for speed and watts.

 

4) Battery life and amps drawn. As a simplified illustration the old model Torq would draw max. 16 amps at max. torque, the New Torq motor could draw over 20 amps and with a much higher torque delivered, that it operated right up to the maximum limit 20 amps imposed by the controller. The USA+Canada version for 350watts and 250 rpm would accelerate and do higher maximum speed operating at much higher Amps, but in fact lower max torque than the 250 watt because it reach 20 amps with more rpm.

 

And higher Amps operations would reduce battery life no doubt about it. Why I seem less concerned in USA+Canadian market vs UK ?

The level of competence, sophistication and reasonableness is at a very different level for my distributor in USA+Canada vs UK.

 

W W Ching

Hi All,

 

Mine is an older Torq, and it behaves as if it is derestricted. When I examined the wiring though, I could not find the stub that flecc describes. It may be non-standard, or it may be that there have been minor changes throughout the model life. John (Aldby) may be able to shed some light.

 

Nick

 

Is your Torq second hand? I remember somebody had a controller replaced (as it had water damage due to going in a pond or similar). They mentioned that the new controller didn't have the ability to be restricted so it maybe yours is similar.

sounds like the relationship beetween ezee and 50 cycles,is very strained they should be pulling together,or sales will fall off.

Is your Torq second hand?

 

Hi Harry,

 

Yes, I got it from John (Aldby) on this forum.

 

Nick

if the kalkhoff bikes sell i would think 50 cycles will reduce the ezee range. i wouldnt be that surprised if they didnt stock ezee at all in a years time.

Derestriction - Updated info from Onbike

 

I know this is an old thread discussion and probably relates to older models of the Torq from 2008, but I'm considering purchasing a new Torq and wanted to double check on the de-restriction issue to make sure they can be de-restricted so I e-mailed OnBike Ltd.

 

Phil Key the M.D. of OnBike has e-mailed me to confirm the latest models of the Ezee Torq can be de-restricted to run at 23mph (20-21mph under load), and he has told me that he has personally tested this before e-mailing me to be sure.

 

Phil said the motors on the older (2008) Torq's were 200rpm and came de-restricted already and by pulling apart the derestriction connector, the motor would run at a SLOWER speed, probably 150rpm he thinks.

 

Phil confirms the motors on the latest Torq's come restricted to comply with the UK law, but if the de-restrict connector is pulled apart it will make the motor run at max 250rpm and thus the bike operates at higher speed.

 

Hope this information is useful to anyone considering a purchase and unsure about this issue.

 

Paul

 

Note: I shouldn't need to point out that de-restricting your Ezee Torq will make it illegal to use on a public highway. Phil is not suggesting that customers should do this, however if you want to use the bike for OFF-ROAD use at higher speed, it's possible and legal to do so.

Edited November 3, 201015 yr by morphix

Thanks for this latest information from Onbike Paul.

 

To avoid any misunderstandings, the older Torqs were the Torq 1 models of 2006 and 2007 and just like the latest with the 22 mph capability.

 

It was the Torq 2 intermediate versions around 2008 to 2009 that had the restrictor that slowed it when derestricted.

 

For identification, the Torq 1 had rigid forks, while all Torq 2 models have sprung front forks. I'd guess from Paul's information that only the latest Torq 2 models which now have eZee's own motor have the 22 mph capability. Previous Torqs had Suzhou Bafang motors with serial prefix BF.

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2008 Torq - 350 watt upgrade?

 

Hi All,

I have a September 2008 Torq - Which came stock with the restrictor plug/circut off - and runs at max 15.5 mph (Or less Hauling my 16 odd stones around!

If I do want to use OFF ROAD and get 20MPH out of it. Does anyone know a way to do this? I am prepared to spend some money if absolutely needed: Questions are:

- Does the motor and gearing effect the speed here? Can I change the planetary gears in the motor?

- Is it the controller that is somehow measuring the motor speed and restricting to 15.5mph.

I notice the bike does not pull as well as my wife's ezee LIV (which is a very powerful bike) Indicated by the fact that the Torq will not cut out an older battery I have - where the Liv causes this to cut out/overload.

As a last resort - I will concider looking at some of the USA components from NYC cycles or similar?

All/Any Ideas would be very welcome/appreciated.

All the best!

Get in touch with Onbike Dave, they may be able to supply one of the controllers that will make your SB motor run at the higher speed they used to.

 

The controller comes complete with quite lot of wiring pre-attached, the positive connection for the switch, the negative to the battery platform, the 8 way multi-wire connection to the motor, the connector to the pedelec sensor and the connector to the meter/throttle/lighting/brake cutout cable harness.

 

So quite a lot of work to fit and it will be much dearer than a simple controller alone:

 

Onbike, the electric bike people, eZee agents

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