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How about...... Evil murdering terrorist bastards.

If he bugs people that much, you could easily put him on 'ignore' and never see his posts again. So why not do that ? Personally i find him hilarious.... although that's laughing at him, rather than with him.

A factory in the far east can tell their customers whatever they want to hear. I remember a TV expose on Indian clothes factories, supplying clothing for well known high st stores here in the UK. Supposed to be ethical employers with good working conditions and reasonable hours, but they were...

Yes, i expect you do a lot of pulling.

I always slow down and take great care when dogs are near to the road or path i'm cycling on, i would be devastated to hit one. Cats ?.... well they're fair game, i just wind on the power and aim for them.

Well i dont know about anyone else...... but i just knocked one out.

The West Side Massive 'Booyakasha'

Splitters !

I think Charge make their own frames here in blighty.

So i take it its only assembled in the UK then.

So if they dont even make the frame..... what parts are 'made in the UK' ?

I wonder what the percentage is of the total parts of a Cyclotricity bike that are made in the UK ? Or is it just the frame ?

Of course it matters, i've never known anyone say 'I really wish this bike was a bit heavier' I can feel a huge difference between pedalling my light unassisted bike and pedalling my Ebike thats twice the weight. Less weight, easier to pedal to assist the motor, better range outta the...

They get away with it by saying 'up to'..... we all know its meaningless ******. There's far too many variables of hills, weight of rider, how much pedalling you do etc etc to give accurate ranges. But i guess people who know nothing about ebikes do fall for it.

You could consider this as well...... http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/electric-bikes/carrera-crossfire-e-mens-electric-bike It states 9ah battery but a poster on here has just bought one and it actually comes with an 11ah battery. Also has hydraulic disc brakes and different frame sizes...

The Karoo can be 18.5 kilos if you have the smaller battery 13ah battery, depends how much range you're fussy about..... which i think is a pretty decent weight. Its a bike i've considered myself.

Thats more like it.

Where do you get 11 to 12 kilos from ?

I have a Giant Defy 5 myself and have contemplated doing a conversion on it, although i'm more inclined to leave it as an unassisted bike at the moment. I wouldn't like to leave it for hours chained up at a station. Its a nice looking bike and being Giant make it will attract the attention of...

GUFFAW....... Keep posting Smart eBiker.