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Hmmm is this the loophole?

Plus insurance, plus MOT, plus parking fees, plus petrol at £xxx / gal., plus upkeep, plus... :eek: :rolleyes:

1. You need about 8 mm gap on one side. Behind the chainwheel is the most discreet. It will almost always fit on the left hand side. 2. If you are using a modern hub kit you don't need brake switches. If you insist on having one on the rear brake you can use a hidden wire brake detector switch...

http://www.ciclotekstore.eu/b2c/producto/9822033/2/nitro-e-bike-motor-kit-48v-without-battery-

My motor peaks at 540 W (624 W at full charge) which is plenty for me and I live in the Basque Country... Probably not enough if you wanted to use a throttle but if you wanted to use a throttle here you would probably need a couple of 20 Ah batteries to get anywhere interesting! Or stick to...

You can lace or have a motor laced into any size of wheel. There are motor kits with bare motors. I found a kit with a 1000W motor in a 27.5 rim just now P.S. this is an English language forum so it is a "host" bike (the bike hosts the kit it isn't giving anything away...)

I'm sorry I don't understand your question.

Thanks. Found it. 250 W nominative 350 W constant -> 600 W peak like most hub motors on the market.

Ciclotek is now selling a hub motor with torque sensor http://www.ciclotekstore.eu/b2c/producto/9822300/2/ Does any one know which motor it is? Mxus XF08 maybe? Does anyone have experience with this motor? TIA

Thought as much must depend on who assembles them.

The bottom one is more discrete, lighter (slightly) and I think that the key turns it on and off.

Nothing beats adding a quality kit to a good quality bike. You get the best of both worlds. Then you have Stromer, Heisenberg and Herkelmann et al.

I bought this set from bike discount: http://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/velomann-tool-case-tool-max-26195/wg_id-354 50 € and the quality has been just fine working on older cheap bikes (read "often locked solid"). Oh one of the latches on the plastic box broke off...

I'm a cheapskate... leather summer city motorbike gloves.

I have a Magura hydraulic rim brake on the front and Tektro mechanical on the rear. After 2400 km I have already replaced the Tektro pads but the Magura ones are not even half gone yet. And Magura have even longer wearing pads as an option! I am worried about the single wall aluminium rim in...

Looking at the photo of the bike again: - Fill the triangle with batteries, it is a cutting edge high-tech pedelec not a vanilla bicycle get over the traditional looks already! - extend the motor to half the wheel with a "mudguard" = 1000 W (???) I bet we would still be under 20 kg. And it...

In the article there is mention that getting the gap to a millimetre (or less) on a bike is nigh impossible.

But look at prices in Germany... There is the fashion thing - what huge technological advances do the 2016 models have over the 2015 ones? The economy of scale on the European market is already there but the companies are greedy and their profit margins must be large. A kit is the best bet...

Then again it could be something like limited to 250 W, 350 W and 500 W classes by controller output, big chainwheels and strong riders, fairings... Battle Mountain seems like the ideal place. Just have to convince the HPV folk that an electric motor assisted class is interesting.

It would be interesting to see the numbers for acceleration to 25 kmh with 500W. All the maglev train stuff is for a vehicle weighing many tons. Not to talk of rail guns which use megaWatts to launch projectiles. And they talk about regen in the article which we know doesn't work very well with...