I am so sad......

[flecc]

Eddie is no bully, I recognise him as a very sensitive person who can easily be hurt. Like many others in that position, he can sometimes see a difference of opinion as a criticism, which of course hurts.

That his desire not to be hurt results in him expressing himself strongly to preclude criticism is entirely understandable. But of course that can predictably lead to dispute situations, and when that happens he does try to lighten the situation with banter, but for some that can be misread.

Eddie's posts don't worry me, we can trade taunts and insults and take the mickey out of each other since, though very different people, we understand each other despite never having met.

Ok, so Brian rides an ugly outdated technology tank and Eddie rides both a Sino-Japanese heap of generic junk and a copy of Japanese tech made by a German washing machine producer, but is that really any need for a row?

Surely nothing a couple of pints of English beer couldn't solve.

 

[eddieo]

Nooooo they are very good gas boiler producers And your cars would probably not run without them! lol

 

[indalo]

Ok, so Brian rides an ugly outdated technology tank and Eddie rides both a Sino-Japanese heap of generic junk and a copy of Japanese tech made by a German washing machine producer, but is that really any need for a row?

Surely nothing a couple of pints of English beer couldn't solve.

Henry Kissinger is alive and well but now residing in the Croydon area. Nice one Flecc!

Indalo

 

[jerrysimon]

There are all sorts in it!

Problem is some of us always end up with the Bertie

Its Friday afternoon and I will be off again on my little bike, knowing next week I am on leave

Regards

Jerry

 

[tillson]

I Feel i should reply to this , as you seem to make it all sound very light hearted Eddie.
as bullies often do ,

I Came to this forum ,because i had dreams and stories to share ,with all who wanted to listen and indeed share there own thoughts ,nothing new in that Eddie is there ?no ,and nothing you could say to me personaly is going to hurt me ,because they are my dreams ,and when i go on the next forum ,Eddie ,im going to share my dreams ,and hope to God i dont come across any one like you .

You no perfectly well what happend ,you for your own reason did a demolition job of the Tonaro ,thats fine ,My reply was i nearly wet myself reading that garbage you had wrote ,and it was ,
and then the onslaught began did it not ? yes it did ,and now heres where we get to some of the truth
You could have had your nasty onslaught on me untill the cows come home ,as rightly said you did a short while ago ,
but where i really begin to feel sick ,is when people on this forum had wrote in ,and did not actualy agree with some of the things you said ,you resorted to calling them names ,why ?your bone to pick was with me ,not the folk putting comments , you know there were folk writing about how agresive
this forum had became ,how they did not want to post ,,so you can laught Eddie ,you can make light hearted of this ,infact you can verbally attack me any time you feel like bulling some one ,it really doesnt matter ,i have a dream as many do and it wont be broken by a bully like you ,my very best wishes to you all Brian .

Nicely put points Brian.

As I have said earlier, you can't take these personal attacks or comments from other forum members to heart. You don't know anything about them, they know nothing about you. A forum is a place where make-believe people meet and sometimes talk about real issues. That is where it begins and ends, the bikes and other hardware exist all the charachters and personalities don't.

I would be willing to bet that if you and eddieo met in a pub on neutral ground, without any prior history from this forum and not knowing who was who, you would get along. You would find common ground in ebikes and the circumstances which drew you towards ebikes. That is what makes all this falling out and dramatic exits from the forum such a nonsense.

If you are going to make an exit, just go. Stop posting, lurk, don't log on again....whatever. It will be a shame if you do any of these things because you obviously enjoy ebikes, members contributions, you have tales to tell and people are interested to hear them so everyone, including you, will miss-out.

Its all very odd.

Edit: crossed with several others

 

[wd0021089]

Eddie is no bully, I recognise him as a very sensitive person who can easily be hurt. Like many others in that position, he can sometimes see a difference of opinion as a criticism, which of course hurts.

That his desire not to be hurt results in him expressing himself strongly to preclude criticism is entirely understandable. But of course that can predictably lead to dispute situations, and when that happens he does try to lighten the situation with banter, but for some that can be misread.

Eddie's posts don't worry me, we can trade taunts and insults and take the mickey out of each other since, though very different people, we understand each other despite never having met.

Ok, so Brian rides an ugly outdated technology tank and Eddie rides both a Sino-Japanese heap of generic junk and a copy of Japanese tech made by a German washing machine producer, but is that really any need for a row?

Surely nothing a couple of pints of English beer couldn't solve.

Well that's it guys the boss has spoken so stop picking on Eddie.

 

[Biged]

Nooooo they are very good gas boiler producers And your cars would probably not run without them! lol

I have noticed you talk some coblers and your boiler choice is another example. When i was gas fitting the Worcester Bosch range of boilers were terrible, if ever there was a callback or problem it was more often a Worcester boiler. I have personally persuaded people from having one, the Rolls Royce of boilers my arse, only in price.

 

[Cyclezee]

Eddie is no bully, I recognise him as a very sensitive person who can easily be hurt. Like many others in that position, he can sometimes see a difference of opinion as a criticism, which of course hurts.

That his desire not to be hurt results in him expressing himself strongly to preclude criticism is entirely understandable. But of course that can predictably lead to dispute situations, and when that happens he does try to lighten the situation with banter, but for some that can be misread.

Eddie's posts don't worry me, we can trade taunts and insults and take the mickey out of each other since, though very different people, we understand each other despite never having met.

Ok, so Brian rides an ugly outdated technology tank and Eddie rides both a Sino-Japanese heap of generic junk and a copy of Japanese tech made by a German washing machine producer, but is that really any need for a row?

Surely nothing a couple of pints of English beer couldn't solve.

Tony,

Once again you read the situation with great insight, are the voice of reason and pour oil on troubled waters .

Recently, you rejected the role of Mayor of London and politics in general, but I think you owe it to the World to be the next UN Secretary General

But first, you need to change that pile of old junk that you ride

Oops, strike the last sentence, just remembered it's an eZee Quando, probably the best electric folder on the planet

 

[eddieo]

well Bighead typical Panasonic owner, absolutely humorless.....and I get accused of being aggressive?lol

where did I say they where the rolls Royce of boilers? Your delusional pal.

maybe use your knowledge to help rather then attack.....I have only found out that I need a boiler yesterday so went on various websites and Ideal came out worse, but Viessmann and Bosch seemed to get good reviews

 

[oigoi]

Just thought I should point out that in defining bullying, it is bullying if the person on the receiving end thinks they are being bullied, not the perspective of others. Worth bearing in mind when deciding what to write.

 

[flecc]

Well that's it guys the boss has spoken so stop picking on Eddie.

In what way am I the boss? I have no authority in here having rejected offers of admin rights, and I recently thankfully lost the previous title of pedelec guru which I'd always disliked.

I'm an ordinary member and express my opinions for others to accept or reject. Maybe you didn't like mine on this occasion and that's fine by me, it's your absolute right.

But no call for a jibe, surely?

 

[eddieo]

some thread this one...can it not be pulled in the interest of harmony? I have learnt something today, and about half a dozen of you are going on my block list...bye bye

 

[Graeme]

Just thought I should point out that in defining bullying, it is bullying if the person on the receiving end thinks they are being bullied, not the perspective of others. Worth bearing in mind when deciding what to write.

OK... so I feel threatened and attacked by this remark, oh and bullied and harassed!
Does that mean that my feelings are accurate?
Nooooope.
Often we don't see things as 'they' are, we sometimes see them as 'we' are.
Eggshells are not a very good foundation for any conversation.

 

[Graeme]

some thread this one...can it not be pulled in the interest of harmony? I have learnt something today, and about half a dozen of you are going on my block list...bye bye

not me eddieo? Eddieo hello are you there....hello...
I have a bosch boiler...and they are great ....if that helps?

 

[eddieo]

not me eddieo? Eddieo hello are you there....hello...
I have a bosch boiler...and they are great ....if that helps?

No G your safe...For NOW!lol The above was not entirely serious (guess I should add that to all my contributions)

Lighten up guys and gals......

 

[indalo]

To all those sanctimonious contributors who seem hell-bent on attacking Eddieo, a man I have never met, because they think he's a bully, perhaps you should take a good look at yourselves.

Consider the words of the Scottish bard before adding any more poisonous content to this tainted and tarnished thread:

“OH WAD SOME POWER THE GIFTIE GIE US TO SEE OURSEL’S AS OTHERS SEE US! IT WAD FRAE MONIE A BLUNDER FREE US, AND FOOLISH NOTION”

Time to move on, I think.

Indalo

 

[flecc]

“OH WAD SOME POWER THE GIFTIE GIE US TO SEE OURSEL’S AS OTHERS SEE US! IT WAD FRAE MONIE A BLUNDER FREE US, AND FOOLISH NOTION”

'an stuff, innit.

 

[JuicyBike]

When I first read this thread I was afraid, petrified, that I might be on the receiving end of bullying too if I dared make a comment, Kept thinking I could never live on these forums again.
Nightmare without you (all) by my side.

But I spent so many nights thinking how that might be wrong that I learned to be strong.
I decided to carry on, posting my contributions, which essentially are made from what I have gleaned here anyway - sort of borrowed words.
And so (I might say) you're back.
From outer space.
I just logged in to find you here
with that sad look upon your face (which makes me uncomfortable, it really does).
I should have changed my stupid lock
I should have made you leave your key
If I had known for just one second
you'd be back to bother me

Go on now go
walk out the door
just turn around now
'cause you're not welcome anymore
weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with goodbye
you think I'd crumble
you think I'd lay down and die
Oh no, not I
I will survive
as long as i know how to love
I know I will stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
and I'll survive
I will survive

Good old Gloria.

 

[Scottyf]

Well im not leaving, or blocking anyone. I'll still post and then its up to you to read. Or not.
Its really up to you.

 

[oigoi]

OK... so I feel threatened and attacked by this remark, oh and bullied and harassed!
Does that mean that my feelings are accurate?
Nooooope.
Often we don't see things as 'they' are, we sometimes see them as 'we' are.
Eggshells are not a very good foundation for any conversation.

If I made a statement directed at a particular person, and that person did'nt like what I said about them, then that statement could be construed as bullying or harassment. The statement I made was not directed at any individual I was speaking in general terms therefore my post could never be construed as bullying or harassment.