New Super Light Tongxin Motor Design/Kit

[eddieo]

fitting!? WARRANTY!? Its a businesses idea e.g. to make money?...Not a bloomin charity!!!!

 

[jerrysimon]

fitting!? WARRANTY!? Its a businesses idea e.g. to make money?...Not a bloomin charity!!!!

Ah well then, definitely a business opportunity and chance to get on rogue traders lol

Regards

Jerry

 

[eddieo]

Ah well then, definitely a business opportunity and chance to get on rogue traders lol

Regards

Jerry

Really? I would LOVE that!

you can be the front man......I'll look after the monies

 

[Kenny]

Found a bit more information about these kits:

motor roller motor disc brake motor battery battery charger control sensor

 

[jerrysimon]

Confused

Well that confuses things

Maybe they have set up a separate web site/company to push them ?

As always very little detailed info.

Regards

Jerry

 

[cwah]

On their website they adverstise 105km for 413wh battery:
motor roller motor disc brake motor battery battery charger control sensor

To do that, the motor would only use 3.9wh/km. This is REALLY low. I suppose on real life using that should be closer to 7wh/km and probably 10wh/km on throttle only?

On my actual 250W motor, with 360wh battery, I can reach a maximum of 27 km at 35km/h max speed.

 

[jerrysimon]

I had an email back, but with no specific prices except to say it was expensive. They want me to tell them exactly what motor I want before they will give me a price.

Interestingly they explained the difference between two versions of motors. As suggested one has the controller "built in" to the motor itself.

What I don't understand is why this motor is then lighter according to the specs than one that doesn't

Regards

Jerry

 

[flecc]

Slightly narrower stator and rotor to make room for the controller? That would cut the weight but with a slight loss of power.

 

[jerrysimon]

Yes you may be right Tony.

Looking at the specs the rated output power and max output power are the same, but I notice maximum power % are less but only by 1%.

Anyway unless they do this motor in the narrower width, I will be staying with my existing Tongxin motors.

Regards

Jerry

 

[KirstinS]

Hi Jerry

Just wondering if you had any response from these guys ? I've tried emailing them for prices but not had ny luck as yet(via the keyde.com website contact)

many thanks
Kirstin

 

[jerrysimon]

Kirston,

This is their reply. Asked them about their dead ebay link.

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"Hi Jerry,

Cause this is my first time to contact ebay, so maybe I have done some operations object the rules of ebay. You can take our website for reference. And tell me which kits you want, I will quote for you. By the way, you are a company or an individual? Would you pls. offer me some information about you?

Right now our products are mature, so once you place your order, I will arrange it to our factory.

--

TKS. & B.RGDS.!

Sky Zhang

Zhejiang Chaoji Electric Tech. Co., Ltd.

Add: Cangyan Industrial Park, Shengzhou, Zhejiang, China

TEL:+86-(0)575-83621888

Fax:+86-(0)575-83621444

Mobile:+86-13735377377

MSN:zhangjie89@hotmail.com

Skype:zhangjieyy89

Website:www.keyde.com"
--------------------

I decided to stick with the Tongxins for now. Might be better contacting Outrider Technology Co.,Ltd as they seem to reply more promptly to emails.

Regards

Jerry

 

[KirstinS]

Thanks Jerry

um, not totally clear is it !

I'll try outrider next

 

[KirstinS]

Hi Jerry and all

I've had a response from keyde.com over the weekend. They have quoted me (inc shipping to UK) for the the kit with /without rim and with 6ah and a 9ah battery.

Prices are

motor laced 6ah = 1100 USD
motor laced 9ah = 1200 USD

take 100 USD off price for a bare motor kit (no rim)

For me, 750 quid is too rich for untested tech without support. I just cannot afford to be an early adopter !

cheers
Kirstin

 

[Cyclezee]

Ouch, you can buy a tried and tested eZee kit for that money

 

[jerrysimon]

Yes that is expensive. You could have four Tongxin kits for that albeit with out batteries.

PS Got that wrong nearer seven or eight. And as NRG says Duty/VAT is always an unknown.

I am ordering another two Tongxin kits which will bring my spares to 5

Quite a few but I may end up building some for friends/relatives.

Regards

Jerry

 

[NRG]

...plus you may get hit with import duty and VAT!

 

[shemozzle999]

Hi Jerry,
The motor on my Brompton Sparticle requires a 105mm drop out for the PW01 motor and with the right spacer arrangement it just clears the inside of the standard steel forks like yours.
I think you could get the new motor in but it looks like the side faces are straight which would mean more spacers.
From what I can see my forks have just been stretched out.
I have put a straight edge against them there are does not appear to be any fancy angles involved. They might have used a second bar halfway down the forks to take out any bow caused by stretching but I cannot see any evidence of that as the inside of the forks are unmarked.

 

[jerrysimon]

Yes that's the beauty of the 83mm Tongxin.

Regards

Jerry

 

[KirstinS]

Hi Jerry

Have you already put an order in ? I'd be really keen to chip into it and add a motor/contoller/throttle for myself. Would this makes things cheaper for you/us in terms of shipping ? Also you have the expertise in dealing with China which I dont at all so I'm clearly keen to leverage that !

Obviously I compleltey undertand if you'd rather not do this with random forum posters..... but thought I may as well ask. Don't ask , don't get and all that

Please do PM me if keen and we can go from there

cheers
Kirstin

 

[shemozzle999]

I don't know if you have seen this exploded view of the Cute 85, via a link posted on ES, before Jerry - I think it confirms it is available with internal freewheel and also has a hall sensor version.

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