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soundwave

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i cant drink the tap water it taste like kak and fluoride makes you stupid o_O
 
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I live in Scotland. As such the water is the best in the country.
When i was young, and not knowing the score about Scottish v English water, I poured a glass in a hostel in London

AGGHHHHHHH W. T. F. is this ???. Spat it out.

No surprise our English cousins drink bottled.
But what is surprising is how much you are forced to pay for the stuff coming through the tap. I wouldnt give that to a dog.

Nothing finer than when you are up north, and you dip your waterbottle in one of the streams coming off a mountain.
Water from the River Thames goes through the Beckton sewage works and back to taps seven times before it finally escapes to the sea. I'm lucky being in the outer fringes with Downs Water, but still awful being so hard after filtering though miles of solid chalk.

I envy you your soft stream water.
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MikelBikel

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i cant drink the tap water it taste like kak and fluoride makes you stupid o_O
World Water Fluoridation map
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Uk Fluoridation
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And in Ireland
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Oh no, fluoride in my county. No wonder I'm gettin t'icker! :)

US Gov lost a court case and the "safe level" was halved. So they funded a study Mmm, so a neurotoxin makes one smarter does it? Kerching, money makes d vorld go arround. :cool:
 
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Covent Garden no longer exists, even the old Covent Garden has gone, now a tatty tourism attraction.

At Covent Garden greengrocers used to buy freshly picked veg from local producers that I was buying from them only hours later. Such fruits as huge golden California plums bursting with nectar like juice, just flown in. Flawless bunches of Muscat grapes, perfectly ripe Galia, Ogen and Honeydew melons, golden pineapples, ripe English apples, pears and Victoria plums. Trouble was that I increasingly became the only customer buying these expensive items as others fell for the cheap supermarket offerings
First the original Covent garden fruit and veg market location. Then they closed Smithfield, our long established quality meat market.

Now they are back attacking our traditional quality food sources again, this time closing Billingsgate, our source for good fresh fish during four centuries.

No doubt prompted by the supermarkets and the interests of processed fish companies like BirdsEye, Youngs etc. So much for their promotion of healthy eating, healthy large company profits more like.
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A few weeks ago, someone on this sooooo very very loooooong thread asked if small energy efficient air fryers can do toast. Yes they can, how well depending on which type. The ones with halogen bulbs are slow, and you'll end up with unholy dry toast, toasted on the bulb facing side and horribly dry underneath. The ones with all metal heating elements and without PTFE, like the one I bought a couple of months ago, toast very much like a normal cooker electric grill, but a bit faster because of the fan assist. Plus the elements last a lot longer (in theory, I'll let you know) than halogen bulb elements which expire after about a year (leaving you with the problem of what on earth to do with the massive 12L or 15L heavy glass bowl - I've got two which are now filled with tools, another to hold large kitchen utensils, and one I use as a footstool). You've just got to make sure nothing splashes onto the heating elements killing them, they all are supplied with oil trays to fit over the top. I've just consumed lovely cheese on toast cooked using mine. Also great for roasting stuff, pizzas etc. slightly more efficiently than larger ovens, because they're smaller than larger ovens, even if those larger ovens too have fans.
 
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ww3 :)
 

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First the original Covent garden fruit and veg market location. Then they closed Smithfield, our long established quality meat market.

Now they are back attacking our traditional quality food sources again, this time closing Billingsgate, our source for good fresh fish during four centuries.

No doubt prompted by the supermarkets and the interests of processed fish companies like BirdsEye, Youngs etc. So much for their promotion of healthy eating, healthy large company profits more like.
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At this rate discerning cooks will be beating a path to my local 24 hour petrol station, where Tamil medical students working as attendants sell fresh Sri Lankan fish and other exotic produce flown over to order overnight packed in ice at reasonable prices.

Sometimes you can ripen disgsting tasting or tasteless supermarket fruit by loosely wrapping them in brown paper bags, allows fruit to breathe and increases the concentration of the ethylene they produce. Brown paper bags are a bit of a rarity, so it's worth keeping some of that packing paper which kipple from Amazon etc. arrives with. Banana peels exude a lot of ethylene, wrap unripe fruit with those.
 
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A few weeks ago, someone on this sooooo very very loooooong thread asked if small energy efficient air fryers can do toast. Yes they can, how well depending on which type. The ones with halogen bulbs are slow, and you'll end up with unholy dry toast, toasted on the bulb facing side and horribly dry underneath. The ones with all metal heating elements and without PTFE, like the one I bought a couple of months ago, toast very much like a normal cooker electric grill, but a bit faster because of the fan assist. Plus the elements last a lot longer (in theory, I'll let you know) than halogen bulb elements which expire after about a year (leaving you with the problem of what on earth to do with the massive 12L or 15L heavy glass bowl - I've got two which are now filled with tools, another to hold large kitchen utensils, and one I use as a footstool). You've just got to make sure nothing splashes onto the heating elements killing them, they all are supplied with oil trays to fit over the top. I've just consumed lovely cheese on toast cooked using mine. Also great for roasting stuff, pizzas etc. slightly more efficiently than larger ovens, because they're smaller than larger ovens, even if those larger ovens too have fans.
You can buy replacement halogen elements on Ebay:

Or next to nothing from Aliexpress:
 

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You can buy replacement halogen elements on Ebay:

Or next to nothing from Aliexpress:
Sometimes the motors cease to function, other times it's the bulb. After about a year or so of use, it becomes impossible to undo thin baked grease bonded bolts to remove the old bulb, even if you find one which fits the halogen oven you're trying to repair at a reasonable price. Brand new halogen ovens cost about only £15 more than a ebay halogen element, which if you factor in time spent trying to repair the thing, and remaining lifespan of the motor, is a good deal. No I don't know if the motor is mid-drive, so you currently have no reasonable reason to hate tabletop halogen ovens, not with any conviction at least.
 

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Sometimes the motors cease to function, other times it's the bulb. After about a year or so of use, it becomes impossible to undo thin baked grease bonded bolts to remove the old bulb, even if you find one which fits the halogen oven you're trying to repair at a reasonable price. Brand new halogen ovens cost about only £15 more than a ebay halogen element, which if you factor in time spent trying to repair the thing, and remaining lifespan of the motor, is a good deal. No I don't know if the motor is mid-drive, so you currently have no reasonable reason to hate tabletop halogen ovens.
The motors must be mid-drive if they fail so easily. I therefore hate those ovens. Gas is the best.
 

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The motors must be mid-drive if they fail so easily. I therefore hate those ovens. Gas is the best.
I used all mine to death cooking pizza from frozen (hence hot tiny grease droplets), because they're truly EPIC at that: 20 minutes at 150°C on a low wire mesh to thoroughly thaw through, and cook the topping, then max temp for a few minutes to form the delicious evenly browned crust via Maillard effect. Watch like a hawk during the second stage, because it happens very very fast, easy to overdo. Cooking pizza from scratch using fresh home made dough in a halogen oven is much more complicated. Death of halogen ovens correlate with my weight loss.
 
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At this rate discerning cooks will be beating a path to my local 24 hour petrol station, where Tamil medical students working as attendants sell fresh Sri Lankan fish and other exotic produce flown over to order overnight packed in ice at reasonable prices.

Sometimes you can ripen disgsting tasting or tasteless supermarket fruit by loosely wrapping them in brown paper bags, allows fruit to breathe and increases the concentration of the ethylene they produce. Brown paper bags are a bit of a rarity, so it's worth keeping some of that packing paper which kipple from Amazon etc. arrives with. Banana peels exude a lot of ethylene, wrap unripe fruit with those.
Ooh, don't say "flown over", you'll give some on here an apoplexy, think of the carbon! Pretend it was caught in a local, clean, river, that's cycling distance away. Namaste, hehe ;)
 

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Ooh, don't say "flown over", you'll give some on here an apoplexy, think of the carbon! Pretend it was caught in a local, clean, river, that's cycling distance away. Namaste, hehe ;)
True gourmets know no limits. There is an Illuminati subgroup which host dinner parties where they consume the final individuals of extinct species to be.
 
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More "heavy going" than a 'GoodRead'? hehe :cool:
Xi Jingpin's slogan is World Wide Chinese democracy, with half the world, including Russia, following them.

So we have a choice now. Eastern style democracy with voting for representatives in its single party, or Western style democracy with multiple parties to vote for.

Both systems equally good at failing to satisfy their people.

Democracy is often said to be a terrible system but the best we have. I don't agree, benevolent dictatorships are often far better.
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First the original Covent garden fruit and veg market location. Then they closed Smithfield, our long established quality meat market.

Now they are back attacking our traditional quality food sources again, this time closing Billingsgate, our source for good fresh fish during four centuries.

No doubt prompted by the supermarkets and the interests of processed fish companies like BirdsEye, Youngs etc. So much for their promotion of healthy eating, healthy large company profits more like.
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