March 22, 20179 yr Leaving Tianjin port this week: The new Woosh Rio mtb: GXP bottom bracket Ounce 245 forged alloy crankset 8-speed with Rapid Fire shifter 13AH semi-hidden battery. Range about 40 miles. Bafang SWX02 rear geared hub motor. High torque. Magnesium RST Omega fork. Lightweight. Hydraulic brakes front and rear, 180mm rotors. Powerful and progressive. 5-level LCD. Thumb throttle. Puncture resist tyres. Mudguards, lights, bell. Soft grips. Introductory price: £1,049. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2017/rio/rio-mtb.jpg The new Woosh Rio-FB (Fatboy): Prowheel crankset 8-speed with Rapid Fire shifter 13AH HL battery. Range about 40 miles. Optional 15AH and 17AH. Bafang G06 fat bike rear geared hub motor. High torque. Hydraulic brakes front and rear, 180mm rotors. Powerful and progressive. 5-level LCD. Thumb throttle. 3" semi-fat tyres, suitable for made roads as well as unmade roads. Mudguards, lights, bell. Soft grips. Introductory price: £999. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2017/rio/rio-fb.jpg If you have any questions, just ask.
March 22, 20179 yr Author aren't we all? BTW, the new bikes have plenty of power, just right for the traditionally built.
March 22, 20179 yr Author there is no password on the LCD, but please don't go over 10% of leeway that we still enjoy.
March 22, 20179 yr Thanks Woosh. I know you cant comment on what I was getting at, probably not thee place to ask the question....but 10% would take it up to 17ish so not too far off where Id be hoping to get I like both bikes, although maybe a combination of the two would suit me. The narrower tyres of the MTB, but the higher capacity battery option, and probably some really long mudguards.
March 22, 20179 yr Author The narrower tyres of the MTB, but the higher capacity battery option, and probably some really long mudguards. we have already bikes with narrower tyres, higher capacity HL battery and long mudguards (Bali, Bermuda, Karoo). The Rio bikes are orientated toward going off-roads, hence the more capable suspension fork on the Rio MTB or large tyres on the Fatboy. The Rio MTB is meant to be lightweight and efficient, you can lock the fork and stomp as much as you like on the cranks, the GXP bottom bracket is wider than others and constructed to take all your weight on the pedals without torsional problem. the Fatboy is meant to be just.. fat and fun. It'll go anywhere.
March 22, 20179 yr Seen that Fatboy in the flesh, in the window of 'Woosh cycles in Southend, have to say it looks impressive, tho' wouldn't be for me, I little need for a fashionable lifestyle choice. Looks the biz , though.
March 22, 20179 yr I like the look of the Fatboy and great to see the option of the large battery. Could you please tell me the wheel size and does the throttle work all the way to the cut off or is it only for walking speed. I realise it's not going to be lightweight with those comfy fat tyres and the long range 17AH battery, but do you know it's weight?
March 22, 20179 yr Author Fatboy's wheel size: 26" Fatboy weighs 24.5kgs-25kgs depending how much air you put in the tyres and the tyres. The 3" tyres are lighter. The 13AH battery is a the lightest (a bit under 3kgs), the 17AH heaviest (a bit over 3kgs) - there is not much difference. Fatboy's throttle: you can run at full speed on throttle but you need to pedal a little bit (about half a turn) to activate the throttle.
March 22, 20179 yr I've not heard of the G06 motor before. How does it compare with the BPM motor as found on the Big Bear in terms of its power and torque?
March 22, 20179 yr Author Hello John, Did you get the controller I posted yesterday? The Bafang RM G06 has same power and torque, between the SWX02 and the BPM, but a bit lighter than the BPM and is made for fat bikes (wider dropout 170mm-175mm instead of 135mm for normal bikes). Edited March 22, 20179 yr by Woosh
March 22, 20179 yr Good to see the central battery mounting. It looks right, and it puts the weight in the right place. Now, if the Big Bear LS had its battery where the original Santana battery was mounted, you would be on the right road! If you study all the expensive German offerings, they have central batteries. I remember an elderly ex-naval bod saying me, 'If it looks right, it usually is right', with regards to engineering. There are some really good bikes on the market, but I have not found one that has everything I want. I'm just fussy, I suppose.
March 22, 20179 yr Author Hello Chainring, yes, that's slow progress. Hopefully the Rio MTB will find favour with customers who look for a 100% secure attachment for the battery while keeping the electrics fairly stealthy.
March 23, 20179 yr Hello Chainring, yes, that's slow progress. Hopefully the Rio MTB will find favour with customers who look for a 100% secure attachment for the battery while keeping the electrics fairly stealthy. For the first time ever, a cyclist came alongside me to talk, just a couple of days ago. (We were on a closed bus route). He asked about my bike, with no rude comments, and told me he had built his, but the deep rims caught the wind! I do not want a 'stealthy' electric bike - I am not ashamed! I have changed my job, and I am doing more miles, something I could never manage at my age with my joints, without an electric bike. It has a big silver battery, and a big silver motor, and it's good that people learn about them.
March 23, 20179 yr Author Hello Chainring, I am not at all ashamed of showing that the bike is electric, it's more about esthetics, secure attachment and not attracting the wrong sort of attention.
March 23, 20179 yr Hello Chainring, I am not at all ashamed of showing that the bike is electric, it's more about esthetics, secure attachment and not attracting the wrong sort of attention. Sorry, no offence! I've got a habit of saying the wrong thing, and emails just aren't the same as speaking face to face. I will still recommend Woosh for the service I received when I bought mine, and will keep watching your range.
March 23, 20179 yr Hello Chainring, yes, that's slow progress. Hopefully the Rio MTB will find favour with customers who look for a 100% secure attachment for the battery while keeping the electrics fairly stealthy. I have definitely liked, agreed and found this informative.
March 23, 20179 yr Leaving Tianjin port this week: The new Woosh Rio mtb: GXP bottom bracket Ounce 245 forged alloy crankset 8-speed with Rapid Fire shifter 13AH semi-hidden battery. Range about 40 miles. Bafang SWX02 rear geared hub motor. High torque. Magnesium RST Omega fork. Lightweight. Hydraulic brakes front and rear, 180mm rotors. Powerful and progressive. 5-level LCD. Thumb throttle. Puncture resist tyres. Mudguards, lights, bell. Soft grips. Introductory price: £1,049. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2017/rio/rio-mtb.jpg The new Woosh Rio-FB (Fatboy): Prowheel crankset 8-speed with Rapid Fire shifter 13AH HL battery. Range about 40 miles. Optional 15AH and 17AH. Bafang G06 fat bike rear geared hub motor. High torque. Hydraulic brakes front and rear, 180mm rotors. Powerful and progressive. 5-level LCD. Thumb throttle. 3" semi-fat tyres, suitable for made roads as well as unmade roads. Mudguards, lights, bell. Soft grips. Introductory price: £999. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2017/rio/rio-fb.jpg If you have any questions, just ask. You've said it all, what else is there left to ask? I think Woosh that you are taking the "P"
March 23, 20179 yr Author You've said it all, what else is there left to ask? I think Woosh that you are taking the "P" We could discuss whether the this year we'll see more fat bikes or should fat bikes be fitted with mudguards and rack. We could talk about the choice of components. Why use the Bafang SWX02 instead of the Bafang MaxDrive or a DD motor? we could compare it against its rivals. etc. I supply the basic information, the rest it's up to you.
March 23, 20179 yr like the idea of 15 17ah option for fatboy, what size wheels are fitted and can one fit slimmer tyres say 2" can the 15 or 17ah battery be mounted on the mtb vertion ? cost of fatboy with 17ah weight of mtb bike? and torque /nm for both moters please any dealers in my neck of the woods Hertfordshire? thank you
March 23, 20179 yr Author the Fatboy uses 26" fat tyres. Minimum tyre width is 2.6". can the 15 or 17ah battery be mounted on the mtb vertion ? Not yet. We keep 17HL batteries because of the BBS02 kits we sell. torque /nm for both motors 60NM on the Rio MTB 80NM on the Fat Boy any dealers in my neck of the woods Hertfordshire? You are not that far from Southend! a trip to the seaside would be a treat
March 23, 20179 yr An adjustable stem - as fitted to both bikes - is not recommended for serious off-road use. I doubt either bike would stand up to that for long anyway, but anyone doing so would be advised to fit a rigid stem.
March 23, 20179 yr Author Thanks RobF. Duly noted. I'll make sure it is in the manual and we will offer to fit a rigid stem for those who prefer it.
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