UK petition to raise cut-off limit

soundwave

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May 23, 2015
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the police are not interested i have even tried to get them to chase me and there just not going to do jack unless you kill someone.
 

KirstinS

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Apr 5, 2011
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the police are not interested i have even tried to get them to chase me and there just not going to do jack unless you kill someone.
Its matter of time before that happens. Just matter of statistics as more and more illegal ebikes bikes hit the road every year

However, I still think you are bang on correct. The fact that a girl died on an e scooter (not the vespa type but the electric kick scooter type).....and precisely nothing has been done to enforce the law anywhere. Thse things are not a bit illegal but totally and utterly on any possible level

Brighton is full of them, London is full of them. Not aware of folk even getting a smack on the wrist !
 
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ebiker99

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Feb 17, 2019
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Its matter of time before that happens. Just matter of statistics as more and more illegal ebikes bikes hit the road every year

However, I still think you are bang on correct. The fact that a girl died on an e scooter (not the vespa type but the electric kick scooter type).....and precisely nothing has been done to enforce the law anywhere. Thse things are not a bit illegal but totally and utterly on any possible level

Brighton is full of them, London is full of them. Not aware of folk even getting a smack on the wrist !
There was some police activity in London after the accident:
I don't know whether this continued though
 
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KirstinS

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The Government decided we don't need so many police and we're seeing the consequences.....
Let's stop now before this becomes the Brexit thread!

But yep, could nt agree more. And I work with colleagues who are 50% ex police. Forced out one way or another due to relentless cuts
 
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Perseus

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Oct 15, 2015
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Problem is vehicles drivers can't anticipate speed very well especially a bicycle travelling at speed exception may be a lycra lout. I have my assist set to 20mph and a lot of cars just can't anticipate /judge my speed as I approach junctions, the main issue here is they are not willing to give way as driving styles gets worse.
I try and keep eye contact as I negotiate junctions and always have my brakes covered in readiness to stop or slow down.
I would like the limit increased to 18 mph and the speed limit on paths set at 15 mph. I rarely use my brakes in small town traffic. Need them when it gets busier in bigger towns and on paths at weekends.
 
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anotherkiwi

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Jan 26, 2015
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I don't really understand your final point about 480kph cars?
Nobody needs a road car that can go that fast and the owner will be trusted to respect the road code. Pedelecs are physically limited, the rider isn't trusted to respect 25 kph cut off on his own. Kind of a double standard was my point.

On my very short commute I average 22.7 kph. My top speed is in the low 40s and there are a couple of slopes where I struggle to top 18 kph, 25 kph average I can only dream of...
 

RossG

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Feb 12, 2019
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Bit off topic but, Husain Bolt can run at 28mph...thought I'd just throw that in.
 

Ja_T

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May 24, 2018
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At the end of the day ebikes are a much more cost-effective way of commuting to work without sweating and stinking when you get there. It is a growing market, roads will be safer with more bikes and less cars (your much less likely to kill someone at 30 mph on a 20-30kg bike than a 1500kg car) obviously the laws need updating with new classes of vehicle, new mot's and safety laws etc. I agree the 15 mph limit is fine for vehicles classed as bicycles for riding on pavements and cycle paths but speed pedelecs will take off, personally as I said before I'm happy riding in the road and paying insurance. This petition is pointless, it's more classes of ebike we need and rules that make them easier to type approve but maintain safety with mot checks and age limits etc.
 

youngoldbloke

Finding my (electric) wheels
Apr 27, 2018
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Nobody needs a road car that can go that fast and the owner will be trusted to respect the road code. Pedelecs are physically limited, the rider isn't trusted to respect 25 kph cut off on his own. Kind of a double standard was my point.

On my very short commute I average 22.7 kph. My top speed is in the low 40s and there are a couple of slopes where I struggle to top 18 kph, 25 kph average I can only dream of...
OK - but pedelecs are only limited in assisted speed, otherwise the only limit is in the rider - just like an unassisted bike, and the rider of both is expected to 'respect the road code', as you say. Even if the assisted limit was raised to 30 kph your commute may not become that much quicker as you already spend some time above that level under leg power alone, and a higher assisted cut off won't help on those 18kph slopes either.
 

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