Haibike also has the Rohloff hub . I currently have 2 ebikes with Rohloff and its bomb proof.

A tad heavy but so reliable with the mud and rain we get in the uk

 

Only change on the haibike would be a black battery

I currently run a 50 t front and a 13 t rear , I would assume this is not available due to power to hub ratio.

Not a deal breaker as its for offroad use

Edited November 27, 201213 yr by Cakey

I'm not sure Haibike 2013 are offering the 11ah battery.. Best check.

 

If for off road why not a 350 watt HS version of Bosch drive. again dont think Haibike do one....AVE may be best bet for one of these..the Grace MX S belt drive and nuvinci, probably not enough of an off roader for you but it's a lovely bike and from a Wisper dealer soon.

What bike is the hs 350w ?

Sorry Eddie had another read , I assume ave do a 350w ? Available in uk .

The geometry looks good on the haibike , head angle similar to my mountain bikes

Fs Rx pro 26 is the one I like

Here is a list

 

I doubt anyone imports them but EBCO I feel sure would get you one...

 

Google Translate

 

SH 11 or the XH 7

 

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://pedelec-elektro-fahrrad.de/news/speed-pedelecs-mit-bosch-antrieb-fuer-2012/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dave%2B%2Bhigh%2Bspeed%2B350%2Bwatt%2Bbosch%2Be%2Bbike%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26tbo%3Dd&sa=X&ei=bpy0UNicHoaZ0QWpo4HICA&ved=0CGIQ7gEwBQ

Edited November 27, 201213 yr by eddieo

Thanks for that. Ave 350w looks the business

Cakey and Eddie -

 

The 2013 Haibikes are all running the 250w Bosch system, obviously if they were to be imported properly into the UK then they should meet the legal requirements (250w) to be used on public roads.

 

This is not to say this cannot be modified to suit your needs. Personally I think the 250w is substantial enough and should meet most users requirements. Also the weight of the overall bike affects the performance too.

 

That said I know boys and their toys like the 'Top Trump' aspect of any toy.

And on paper 350w looks better than 250w. We think the Haibikes being well spec'd and lightweight should work really well with the 250w bosch motor, we are very excited to test them. the feedback from others has been great.

 

As for the overall ebike weight 'cakey' I can confirm the 3 models we are looking to bring in are all around the 20Kg mark. Very nice indeed.

 

Regards

e-bikeshop

Interesting if you get them in , will have to make a trip down

Hi Chaps,

 

my somewhat more than 2 penn'orth follows. It got longer as I went on!!

 

I recently got an eQ Xduro FS SE (Haibike °eQ Xduro SE° E-Bike Elektro-Fahrrad Pedelec Bosch Rh 56 | eBay) from Germany for E2700. It's the same spec exactly as the FS RX, but black and red colour scheme which, IMHO, is much better.

 

I've only had it a couple of (crappy weather) weeks so haven't given it a proper workout yet, but so far, I'm very pleased with it.

 

It's got a really handy instant saddle height drop lever for serious downhilling, which is sprung so will go back to normal height without having to stop and mess about. Once the shocks are properly set to your weight, the ride is fantastic - way smoother than either my Cannondale or Kalkhoff, and it doesn't seem to waste too much leg power in bouncing the suspension up and down, which was always my reservation about full-sus. It's a high quality frame with very good quality kit. My only mods so far have been

1. to replace Presta tubes with Schrader (Schwalbe) tubes that only needed minimal reaming of the valve hole in the rim, and

2. swop the Fizik Tundra 2 saddle for a Brooks B17. It doesn't look so groovy, but it feels great.

 

I've still to get fully acquainted with it, but the Bosch system appears to knock spots off the Panasonic on my Kalkhoff in terms of adjustability and flexibility - it sailed up a very steep and slippery track through our local woods which had defeated the Kalkhoff, although to be fair, the Kalkhoff's not a full-on MTB, and I've put a 14t motor sprocket on it, which increases top end assistance at the expense of the bottom end.

 

Still, the Bosch is really impressive on hills. The only drawbacks I can find are two;

 

1. There's no easy way to increase top end assistance as with the Kalkhoff, so I'm stuck with the 15 mph cut-off. that said, the Haibike feels a good bit lighter than the Kalkhoff so it's not so hard to keep speed up beyond the assistance level.

 

2. Top gear is too low so I can't keep up with the pedals over about 27-28 mph. I'm trying to rectify that by putting on a 42t chainring instead of the existing 38t one. It'll hit the bottom end a bit, but the gearing's so low that I think it will actually make it more usable right across the range.

 

However (if anyone's made it this far ), I had to remove the chainring lockring with the aid of a Birmingham screwdriver as I couldn't track down the right size extractor tool, and as a result, whilst it all works fine, I now have a somewhat battle-scarred lockring . The ring is about 5 cm diameter, and I'd be really grateful if anyone could point me to a source of both lockring and tool. I have hunted the web without success so far, and Bosch's website seems to have bits that are only accessible to trade users.

 

Here endeth the sermon..........

Hi Hugh,

 

Wow, that was a nice read, sounds like your getting on great with the Haibike so far so good!

What a great write up, thanks!

 

You should see substantial benefits of changing the 42T ring, Good shout. Let us know how it affects things.

 

As for the lockring, Im sure any decent engineering firm/forge should be able to help you. Otherwise maybe we could help in the new year if we are to be stocking spares for the Haibike models.

 

May I ask what steered you towards the Haibike over others?

And also if your decision would have been made easier if there was a decent UK supplier with a good stock hold and access to spares?

 

Thanks in Advance

Martin

e-bikeshop

I'm not very techy but on German eBay they have some bits that may be what you are after....

 

Hugh, what's it like for road use? lovely looking bike well jell!lol

 

The front chain ring on link does look a bit small.....

Edited November 27, 201213 yr by eddieo

Hi Again,

 

'May I ask what steered you towards the Haibike over others?

And also if your decision would have been made easier if there was a decent UK supplier with a good stock hold and access to spares?'

 

I was doing a mental toss-up between the Haibike (Bosch, looks good, trad. parts list generally) and the Grace (Bosch, good looker, interesting with Gates and NuVinci, but also an unknown). What finally swung it was impulse - I saw the Haibike on German eBay, put in an offer which I thought wouldn't be accepted, and it was! No regrets, as I saved myself a fair old bit over the full cost of either, and actually I feel happier with technology which is basically familiar and fixable by me (i.e chain drive and derailleur).

 

Decision would have been easier if I knew parts etc were easily available. That said, I've got a fair bit of ( I hope not misguided) faith in German engineering quality, and will be surprised if I get let down. However, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you Martin - it'd be useful to have relatively local access to parts and advice.

 

Eddie - road so far is good - like I say, not too bouncy and very smooth over traffic humps and stuff. Only drawback is low gearing which my 42t ring should sort well enough.

 

It's got no mounting points for a rack, as you might expect given its purpose as a mountain bike, but I might lash out on one of those Topeak seat-post racks so I can lug a bit of stuff around when we go to far-flung bits of seaside in Croatia.

 

Happy Birthday to me ! (it's actually this Friday)

My 60th in a few weeks..taking family on India tour as a treat...could have bought 3 or 4 haibike for the money:confused:

Hugh -

That's interesting, thanks for your input. I am a true believer in the German stuff to, really makes a difference. Hopefully we will be able to offer you support for the future.

And good idea with the seat post mounted rack, should do the job!

Still would be interesting to know how well your 42T ring change will make.. Keep in touch!

Oh and happy birthday for Friday!

 

Eddie -

India tour sounds great, got room for one more?

Have fun on your journeys, hey there's always next years birthday for the 3-4 Haibike's ha

 

Martin

e-bikeshop

taking family on India tour as a treat...could have bought 3 or 4 haibike for the money:confused:

 

We've cut our aid to India, so it looks like you're having to make up the shortfall!

We've cut our aid to India, so it looks like you're having to make up the shortfall!

 

Indeed!lol To tour the North, golden triangle etc..has to be done during our winter as to hot otherwise and Christmas time the most expensive...

 

My sister and husband went last year and spent as much for their tour as I am for a family of four.. because we cut out the UK agents that charge a bomb, and use the same Indian agents that we have used anyway...

Interesting if you get them in , will have to make a trip down

 

Where are you based?

 

Reagrds

Martin

 

However (if anyone's made it this far ), I had to remove the chainring lockring with the aid of a Birmingham screwdriver as I couldn't track down the right size extractor tool, and as a result, whilst it all works fine, I now have a somewhat battle-scarred lockring . The ring is about 5 cm diameter, and I'd be really grateful if anyone could point me to a source of both lockring and tool. I have hunted the web without success so far, and Bosch's website seems to have bits that are only accessible to trade users.

 

Sorry for any confusion, I read this as a circlip but I now see its a lockring and tool you are after. Could you take a picture of the lockring on the bike? I may be able to help you find the appropriate tool?

 

Regards

Martin

Edited November 27, 201213 yr by Martin@e-bikeshop

Hi Martin,

 

attached (I hope) is a shot of the lockring. Any ideas gratefully received.....

 

[ATTACH]4515.vB[/ATTACH]

I think you will find that is the first item under Bosch on German ebay I pointed you to earlier....followed by HMI

 

Original Locknut Spider von Bosch, zum Lösen der Zentralmutter am Kettenblatt | eBay

 

Abzieher, Spider Nut für Bosch ebike System | eBay

 

is this it?

Edited November 27, 201213 yr by eddieo

Maybe an adjustable C spanner would do the job .

 

 

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Eddie, I reckon you're right and that is the proper tool. However, I now also need a new lockring to use it on, or else I might as well continue using the hammer and screwdriver method that's already worked but spoilt the lockring's pristine beauty

Mountainsport -

 

There was a big drop on the other side, lets hope he was ok

 

e-bikeshop.co.uk

 

Well he seems to be OK whenever i repeat the video, so he must of made that massive big drop.:o

 

Mountainsport.

so its not the larger diameter flat shinny ring in your picture (same as ebay link) but nut above it ?

 

edit:

 

Doh... got it, the link I posted is for tool (male) to undo your nut (female)

 

there are loads of pages of Bosch stuff on ebay you may well find what you need or contact the sellers and ask if they can help.

Edited November 27, 201213 yr by eddieo