November 27, 201213 yr Hi Martin This range looks excellent, and if I had a few extra hundred quid spare I might have looked at this at the same time as my Ave XH-3! I'll renew my lottery subscription, that might help... As others have said, some posts in this forum have floated a question-mark over support/parts for Haibikes in the UK. My experience - as someone who isn't inclined to maintain/fix the electrical parts himself - is that good support needs to be local. Hence, if you can join a bike repair network (do BEBA do this?) then any repairs required by your customers can be handled locally, saving on delivery costs both ways.
November 27, 201213 yr When Eddie mentioned the northern golden triangle . I thought he was visiting man united , old Trafford cricket ground and the velodrome )))
November 27, 201213 yr so its not the larger diameter flat shinny ring in your picture (same as ebay link) but nut above it ? It's the shiny ring with 8 notches in it that I need Eddie. As far as I can see, both your links lead to the tool needed for its removal.
November 27, 201213 yr It's the shiny ring with 8 notches in it that I need Eddie. As far as I can see, both your links lead to the tool needed for its removal. yes it just clicked, so added an edit to earlier post....tool(male) for your nut (female). try sellers on german ebay and see if they can source..
November 27, 201213 yr Well he seems to be OK whenever i repeat the video, so he must have made that massive big drop.:o Mountainsport. That ski slope has a 38 degrees angle of gradient, which converts to a slope of 78%. Yes, he did make it to the top, winched up on a rope attached to the headstock of the bike...returning to the bottom via the maintenance cradle.
November 28, 201213 yr Author It's the shiny ring with 8 notches in it that I need Eddie. As far as I can see, both your links lead to the tool needed for its removal. Hello Hugh, Hopefully this lock-ring is a part we could stock direct from Bosch in the new year. In the meantime, the part you are after is called a spider lock ring, these look almost identical to some of the spider lock-rings we have used in the past used on some middleburn/shimano cranks. We should have a measure up but I think its worth a fiver to try this - [ATTACH]4516.vB[/ATTACH] Middleburn Spider Lockring | Buy Online | ChainReactionCycles.com As for the tool, the official Bosch one looks good but expensive too, if its only going to be used once in a blue moon. I would use what we use in our workshop, a 'C' spanner or lock-ring wrench. This will do the job and its also more versatile so you may be able to apply it to other applications too. Always a handy tool to have kicking about - [ATTACH]4517.vB[/ATTACH] Park Tool Fixed Gear Lockring Wrench | Buy Online | ChainReactionCycles.com Both available in the UK for about 20 quid. With next day delivery. You will need the lock-ring wrench anyway so the middleburn lock-ring might be worth a pop whilst you are there ordering. Like I say Im hoping to have the official parts in start of next year. We are going to try to keep a big stock hold of this sort of thing so you are never caught out like this. Regards Martin e-bikeshop
November 28, 201213 yr Author Hi Martin This range looks excellent, and if I had a few extra hundred quid spare I might have looked at this at the same time as my Ave XH-3! I'll renew my lottery subscription, that might help... As others have said, some posts in this forum have floated a question-mark over support/parts for Haibikes in the UK. My experience - as someone who isn't inclined to maintain/fix the electrical parts himself - is that good support needs to be local. Hence, if you can join a bike repair network (do BEBA do this?) then any repairs required by your customers can be handled locally, saving on delivery costs both ways. Hello halfer - Thanks for your reply, glad you like the range. As do I agree that there needs to be good support for these bikes if its going to work in the UK. Hopefully we can achieve this, we are hoping to stock in a good amount of spares, that along with a good knowledge of the bikes from our team should make thinks easier for the end user. As for covering the whole of the UK? I think this can be done.. Regards Martin e-bikeshop
November 28, 201213 yr Hugh, thread running at the moment on German pedelec re front crank. It's recommended that you replace with steel not aluminium and a few makes are discussed..... extralight and FSA These might be for 45 not 25 bikes though so best check There is another much longer thread further down front page re chainring, it starts where chap wants to reduce his, to help more on the mountain, but develops to discuss what you are doing...these guys have even managed to fit 2 front chainriings.... Parts here maybe? http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&ei=g9qQUIztNcua1AXYyoCoCw&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpedelec%2Bde%2Bforum%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26tbo%3Dd&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&u=http://www.pro-cycling-golla.de/E-Bike_Teile/Bosch.html&usg=ALkJrhiKTPe5ud1fylkdJ9pYvL76kv3f7g Found it I think... http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&ei=g9qQUIztNcua1AXYyoCoCw&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpedelec%2Bde%2Bforum%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26tbo%3Dd&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&u=http://www.pro-cycling-golla.de/Bosch/Spider_inkl_Mutter_artikel4f2446ec7dbea.html&usg=ALkJrhg6-29yAQa0njA_cvpBN2YSQpWn-Q Edited November 28, 201213 yr by eddieo
November 28, 201213 yr Hi All, result - Bosch (Looks as if we both found the same site Eddie) I've ordered lockring and tool. The tool's pricey, but will get used, and the lockring's 11 euros, which I can live with. This is interesting as well - 1A Tuning mit Dongle für 26 Zoll Bosch E-Bikes Martin - I beat you to it! I've already tried CRC and the Middleburn ring - way too small sadly. I await a parcel from Germany with interest
November 28, 201213 yr Author Eddie- Spot on for finding that Aladdin's Cave! I think learning the German language is going to provide useful over the coming years. Google translate is not all that great.. Hugh - This is interesting as well - 1A Tuning mit Dongle für 26 Zoll Bosch E-Bikes You've got me thinking now! This looks like a good little gadget Martin
November 28, 201213 yr That dongle is an interesting bit of kit. installation Instructions. Installation is easy, within 15 minutes of the dongle is installed. You need a crank to the right crank to disassemble and dismantle the Spider Tool for the Spider of the rear sprocket. Warning: the chainring jammed like the seat, it can But by carefully tapping, e.g. with a rubber mallet, fast then remove them using the three Torx screws the splash guard. When you have removed the splash guard can be seen in the back the motor from the speed sensor connector. These connectors off pull out. Now you can cut the clips that came with the dongle, clamp onto the cable from the speed sensor. Be careful that you correct the plug on the cable SDX Colors combine. The connector with the white color for the SDX dongle you have with the red wires are connected to the speed sensor. This technique preserves the bike's original driving up to 20 km per hour. With more than 20 km / h, the speed on the speedometer is halved. then you have to multiply the display in the head by 2. Depending on the firmware version of the bike, it is now up to Reach 50km / h. Normally you a speed of 30 to 33km / h as pleasant feeling that has to do with the cadence. The advantage on SDX2 dongle, is not that the electrical support
November 28, 201213 yr Blimmey...... Sounds interesting..will order spare battery now! Yipee! Hugh, second thread I mentioned about cranks also talks about not upsetting the canbus system,,you can do this by fitting a larger crank with the wrong number of teeth. Best have a look Edited November 28, 201213 yr by eddieo
November 28, 201213 yr Author This is interesting, From the pictures It just looks like the case of connecting/earthing/disconnecting 2 wires, and the headphone jack/dongle is a quick and easy way of applying the mod. Will have to research this further. Would be nice to work out a cheaper alternative too that maybe incorporates a button instead of connecting the jack. I just wonder how it affects the overall range. If anyone has tested this please let me know. Otherwise I look forward to testing this in the new year Martin
November 28, 201213 yr Author That dongle is an interesting bit of kit. Interestingly after a bit more research, It seems there is a small piece of electronics housed into that little headphone jack! This means it might not be as simple as 2 wires, never the less I will still be testing this, as it means the Bosch unit can be running at 50kph (off road of course!) and then switched back to normal by removing the headphone jack out of the socket. Hmmmmm Reading from a couple of the Germans they report the range is not affected too greatly as with the added speed they are normally switching back to 'eco' mode. So the range remains similar. Only downside seems to be that the speed readout on the oem speedo appears in accurate. Still I think its worth it! Would fit a secondary speedo anyway to see the actual speed readout. Martin
November 28, 201213 yr shame you didn't post a bit earlier Martin...it would have saved me sending off to Austria for a KTM Machina race....for my 72nd birthday present (to myself!) due to arrive any time now (I hope), but much like Halfer, I would have preferred a local purchase with local backup.....although Petersfield is hardly local to Nth london
November 28, 201213 yr Author shame you didn't post a bit earlier Martin...it would have saved me sending off to Austria for a KTM Machina race....for my 72nd birthday present (to myself!) due to arrive any time now (I hope), but much like Halfer, I would have preferred a local purchase with local backup.....although Petersfield is hardly local to Nth london Hi barrycoll, Doh! Shame but we have only just started looking at the range. Happy 72nd Birthday anyway! Maybe we could help on your next purchase! No but we are a lot more local than Austria! We are hoping to bring the Haibike's up for people to try in London early April next year, maybe its worth popping up so you can try one anyway.. Martin
November 28, 201213 yr I've ordered one of these dongles - lashed out while getting lockring etc. I'll let you know how I get on. Depending on how daunting it is, especially given German instructions, I may even need to call on your services to help install it
November 28, 201213 yr Author I've ordered one of these dongles - lashed out while getting lockring etc. I'll let you know how I get on. Depending on how daunting it is, especially given German instructions, I may even need to call on your services to help install it Hello Hugh, Brilliant, I have also contacted the manufacturer regarding these. Please let me know how you get on, the installation looks really simple. Obviously there are the installation instructions on the page of that product. But the most useful picture regarding getting the wires round the right way; I found was in the disclaimer file - Here it is to help with your install. [ATTACH]4524.vB[/ATTACH] Good luck Hugh, it looks easy anyway! The real question that's bugging me is to find out what the actual difference is between the 2 different kits they offer, one for 26" wheels and 700c wheels. I can only presume there is a difference in the signal sent from the 'headphone jack' to work with either wheels size. Martin
November 28, 201213 yr Interestingly after a bit more research, It seems there is a small piece of electronics housed into that little headphone jack Road speed sampling is acheived by measuring the time lapse between magnet passes over the sensor. To put it simply, if the time lapse = 1 second, the dongle will halve that...some sort of transformer perhaps. Obviously a 700c wheel will rotate slower than a 26" at the same road speed.
November 28, 201213 yr Author Road speed sampling is acheived by measuring the time lapse between magnet passes over the sensor. To put it simply, if the time lapse = 1 second, the dongle will halve that...some sort of transformer perhaps. Obviously a 700c wheel will rotate slower than a 26" at the same road speed. Thanks Blew it, I will get one of these kits apart and see exactly what's in there, I will probably try and bring some or similar kits over here for users to buy in the UK. Once I have fitted it and tested the kit, I will stick up a full 'how-to' in English on here for DIY guys. And of course share the results on how well it performs Martin
November 28, 201213 yr They're only advertising 26" and 27/28" wheel kits at the moment Eddie. You'll have to get a bigger camper again
November 28, 201213 yr Glue a magnet to the end of the pedal shaft and re-align the sensor to it...It'll go like stink
November 29, 201213 yr Author Glue a magnet to the end of the pedal shaft and re-align the sensor to it...It'll go like stink Haha I'm sure with a good bit on 'engineering' this could be arranged So back on topic, the overall impression I'm getting is that the Haibike's are a good brand to bring to the UK? But the appropriate dealer support/back-up of spares is key.. Martin
November 29, 201213 yr It was/is a scene changing bike, as up until then the most competent off road e bike was the £5000 + X series Swiss Flyer (best I have ridden) There is more competition for the Haibike now but still well up there... X series: this is a 2010 video..bike just oozes quality, they have a new 29'er version now... maybe the 29'er would suit Cakey....36 V Panasonic, 250/350 option 14 Ah battery.Tip: the Swiss buy there's in Germany as cheaper.meet a guy this summer who had bought two step throughs for £1400 each, not X but new 36 V system.... http://www.mountainbike-magazin.de/news/bikes-parts/neu-2012-flyer-erweitert-die-x-serie-um-ein-29er-pedelec.577641.2.htm Edited November 29, 201213 yr by eddieo
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