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You can get a used wheel from a car-boot sale for a couple of quid, a copy of Sheldon Brown's guide, and after an afternoon's playing with them, you will have mastered a vital skill.

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perhaps applicable to male members but you can't seriously suggest to female members to spend an afternoon playing with a used wheel and a copy of Sheldon Brown's?

spend £3 on a bottle of blue loctite and 30 minutes painting over all the bolts of your new shiny bike.

perhaps applicable to male members but you can't seriously suggest to female members to spend an afternoon playing with a used wheel and a copy of Sheldon Brown's?

spend £3 on a bottle of blue loctite and 30 minutes painting over all the bolts of your new shiny bike.

Now who's trolling?

Edited May 15, 201411 yr by peerjay56

spend £3 on a bottle of blue loctite and 30 minutes painting over all the bolts of your new shiny bike.

 

Saneagle tried that. Unfortunately his spokes settled/stretched after the initial build, so all went loose. With all the nipples nicely glued to the spokes, I couldn't shift any of them with my spoke key, so that motor-wheel was retired. I therefore give that idea, "a nice try, but no cigar".

Now who's trolling?

 

Maybe Trex isn't, gender division still seems common in the wheel building arena, all the builders I've ever seen have been male.

 

There's a married couple in this country who build wheels for a living, I can't remember where, but the wife loosely assembles the spokes into the hub and rim and the husband completes the build.

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most of the wheels builders at the KTM factory in Austria are female.....

 

we've never had a problem in the 3 years we've been working with KTM in the UK with any wheels, on eBikes or normal..

 

so perhaps thats the solution.

the wheels builders at the KTM factory in Austria are female.....

 

Ah, so that's what KTM stands for, Kill The Male.

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Maybe Trex isn't, gender division still seems common in the wheel building arena, all the builders I've ever seen have been male.

 

There's a married couple in this country who build wheels for a living, I can't remember where, but the wife loosely assembles the spokes into the hub and rim and the husband completes the build.

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Having replied on tapatalk, I didn't add the necessary smilies - now edited to show that I did see the funny side:p

The factory that builds the new Oxygen bikes has a fully automatic wheel-building machine. You program it with the spoke tensions and away it goes. It can automatically dish the wheels too by programming a different tension each side.

Having replied on tapatalk, I didn't add the necessary smilies - now edited to show that I did see the funny side:p

 

I did interpret that it was a wry comment Phil, just thought it worth an observation about the male dominance in wheel building I'd seen in Britain.

All members are capale

 

 

All members are capable of fixing broken or loose spokes. It's not exactly difficult. The problem is lack of knowledge in how to do it. You can get a used wheel from a car-boot sale for a couple of quid, a copy of Sheldon Brown's guide, and after an afternoon's playing with them, you will have mastered a vital skill.

 

One of the Kakhoff models used 24-spoke rims with hub-gears. When the spokes broke, repair was very difficult because you had to do some disassembly of the hub-gears. I seem to remember that the advice was to chuck the whole wheel and buy a new 36 spoke one complete with hub-gears. I think Flecc and Tilson know something about these problems. Maybe they'd like to comment.

 

I just found this one. I forgot about this. Decent rim brakes like the hydraulic ones on some Kalkhoffs wear out the rims, so it's only a matter of time before you have the certainty that you'll have to get the whole wheel re-built, not just the possibility of a couple of spokes:

 

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/replacement-wheel-hub-for-original-kalkhoff-pro-connect.15986/

 

I'm not saying that Kalkhoffs are bad bikes. All bikes have advantages and disadvantages. All have servicing and maintenance issues.

 

Ouch. Didn't think of that... Good reason to go with a bike with disc brakes. So this

http://www.50cycles.com/electric-bikes/proconnect-commuter/pro_connect_impulse_10g_xt.html

 

Instead of this http://www.50cycles.com/electric-bikes/proconnect-commuter/pro_connect_impulse_alfine_8g.html

Hydraulic discs are difficult to beat. You get so much precision and control in your braking. I've even fitted them to my £5 clapped out Tesco bike. They're virtually maintenance free. The pads last for ages, and when you do have to replace them, it's a five minute job. I can't see why anyone would want anything else.

it's easy for you because you don't bother with brake sensors.

I have brake sensors on all my bikes with hydraulic brakes except the Xiongda one. the Xiongda controller stops more or less immediately you stop pedalling, so you don't really need them. I'm just about to install a Magura Bionx hydraulic switch on my latest Rocky Mountain build. My bleeding kit (not swearing) arrived today.

I still haven't got brake sensor on my bike. I do get frightened now and then when the assistance takes time to cut off.

I still haven't got brake sensor on my bike. I do get frightened now and then when the assistance takes time to cut off.

 

I couldn't live with that, can't you wire a simple kill switch that is easily pressed with your thumb to briefly cut the power?

may do that this weekend. Only problem is is screw on connector on the BBS01 waterproof cable. I think i'll put some epoxy to keep the wires in place and tape the join with self amagamated tape.

Makes me wonder.. Hydraulic rim brakes... WHY? Can't save much coin.

 

Have Avid Juicy 5 IIRC on my MTB, even bleeding them is easy with the kit. Think I've bled them and changed the pads once in years.

 

BTW don't touch the discs to see how warm they get after a decent stop.. Leaves your fingertips on the disc! ☺

 

Wonder if I get could get 50 cycles to promise that they won't leave me up shit creek like that guy with the unavailable rims if I were to purchase one of their bikes.

Wonder if I get could get 50 cycles to promise that they won't leave me up **** creek like that guy with the unavailable rims if I were to purchase one of their bikes.

 

It's very unlikely to happen again and was Shimano's fault rather than either Kalkhoff or 50cycles.

 

In fairness, in at least one case 50cycles did supply a complete new rear wheel with new hub gear, I'm not sure whether it was a 32 or 36 spoke one but i think the latter.

 

Also I'm quite sure an expert rebuild of the 24 spoke wheel would have proved ok. We've had an e-bike model using 16 spoke front and 20 spoke rear wheels, and one unpowered bike at least with 9 spoke wheels.

Hello lads! Sorry for disturbingyou about the brakes

I tried the xenion 650 and the xtrem and probably some people don't agree with me but I'm almost sure that I will get the xtrem. The xenion 650 was very smoothie and quite nice but when I tried the xtrem I got that smile because I was having fun with it. Was quite powerful and fast and I liked.

The guy told me is better if I take the battery with me when is outside, is that true?

He also told me that in the latest model of the xtrem bh changed the spokes being now stronger because of the way they are. Any idea about that?

Thanks lads

Hello one more time lads!

I've been speaking with the owner of the shop and I can get the bh xtrem for 2350 euros.

He offered me as a special deal the a2b hybrid 24 for 2000 euros.

I tried both of them and for me looks pretty much the same in the way they deliver the power.

However the bh as an extra point (appart of the way it looks) and is the weight, bear in mind that I am 65kg the bh is 22kg and the hybrid 27-29 ( some places tell me one weight in others another)

I didn't find much information about the a2b in this forum and when I asked a time ago people looks like they don't really like it.

I have to think about the weight and decide myself but, could anyone tell me If they had any experience with the a2b or If someone ride in some hills to know how powerful is?

Thanks

I forgot to say that the a2b with this deal has an upgrade of hydraulic brakes

The A2B is a very different bike. Generally people who have them love them. The motor is powerful but it has to be with the extra weight. The range is limited , as it is with the BH Neo Extrem. I'm surprised you thought they were a similar ride.

I really fancied a ktm erace-p, but it cost £2,500 when I was looking last year.

 

I bought a Trek Mamba 29er with hydraulic discs & Rockshox cx32 forks & fitted an Ezee kit; all for less than £1,500.

 

I am delighted with the result

 

But - If you feel the A2b hybrid rides similarly to the Bh Extrem, I'd respectfully suggest you should test-ride many more bikes before making a decision.

I probably didn't explain myself properly.

The a2b had lots of balance and when I was riding it it was very comfy.

The neo xtrem was more "my style" because is a mtb(whichis the kind of bike I've ever had) the forks were quite different and it feel like faster, also less comfy but easier to ride for me because of the weight( it was like a normal bike with the extra power) when I said was the same I was meaning that when I tried first the a2b and then the other day the xtrem and the xenion650 I saw that they way the motor gives the answer was similar, however very different comparing with the xenion with the Bosch system.

With the a2b and the xtrem I felt that when you touch the pedals gives you an extra acceleration but the neo was easier to keep the sped with no prob

When I was looking at the bh website I found another dealer in Dublin, but they don't have bh anymore, however they do have the cube.

They have the cube reaction pro for 2099 and free lifetime service.( I can get the mudguards,lights and other tyres for same price)

Is a good price and what I know is that is a good bike, however and because of the stock that cube has I can't trial one.

As I tried the xenion650 I think it would be similar but more powerful.

Any opinion about get it for that price without try?