I've literally just stumbled on the whole ebike thing. Wow! Where did that come from? So naturally I'm now looking at buying something. I'd like to commute (30 mile round trip) but also have something for a bit of fun occasionally. The specialised turbo s looked good but then I stumbled on the 15mph limit thing. So, I guess the question is, what bikes are similar and easy to make un-restricted?

you can dongle all of them to remove that

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk37/necromunger666/specialized_pedal_assist_launch_stills_08.jpg

 

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk37/necromunger666/spitzing-r-pedelec-WorldCup-blau-1024x599.jpg

You do not need to buy a dongle, just make sure the bike has a hub motor and a basic Chinese Display that will allow you access to the sub menu to set the level you require.

Ok slow down Talk to me like I'm a child. Sound wave, what make is that top bike in your photos? Twangman, can you explain some more?

If you're looking at eBikes, read up on the law and the risks you'll be taking should you use a unrestricted bike in the public domain. Don't just listen to some of the people on here who say... risk it. They won't be there next to you if it goes wrong.

specialised its bad ass till you see the price of it ;(

 

http://ebike-mtb.com/en/first-ride-specialized-turbo-levo-fsr-expert-6fattie-2016-3/

Ha. Ok that's expensive! I thought the stromer was dear. So I guess a budget of £3000 would be the upper limit in this quest then.

have a look here http://www.mhw-bike.com/e-bikes/

this looks good m8 geting 1 when in stock 2600

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk37/necromunger666/ZOOMOvervolt-FS-400-Yamaha.jpg

you don't have to spend £1000 for a fast bike.

start with a strong motor, BBS02 48V.

If you are even a bit handy with the spanners you can build something that will go 24 mph, do 30-40 miles, climb like a mountain goat and cost £600 (or less) + bike. Second hand, half decent bikes cost between £100-200. If you know what you're doing good bikes can be had for £50.

 

Total: £550 - £800

Edited September 21, 201510 yr by Alan Quay

Like Alan says, keep it simple and convert a good bike into a great ebike, no need to spend a fortune.

Check out the oxydrive thread for some example builds and don't worry about the DIY element as it's really easy.

http://www.zytekautomotive.co.uk/products/electric-engines/170kw/

 

TURBO

hub and mid drive motors here http://www.szbaf.com/

Hi Shrubser, like you I am new to this forum, and looking for my first Ebike, for fast commute to work and back, I decided that the "S" Pedelec with assist 45kmph was the solution, but although legal in Germany and Netherlands, there is no class for them in the UK as yet, which is mental to say the least.

 

It could be that "S" Pedelecs become legal in the UK from 2017, to fall in line with EU legislation, but don't hold your breath as the UK will be able to veto the ruling, and keep "S" Pedelecs outside of UK law.

 

For the type of riding I do, a regular Pedelec will do, and my preferred option is to go for the Bosch Crank Drive system.

 

Electric Hub drives either front or rear wheel, to me seem a real Heath Robinson way of doing things, so I won't be going for that option.

Hi Shrubser, like you I am new to this forum, and looking for my first Ebike, for fast commute to work and back, I decided that the "S" Pedelec with assist 45kmph was the solution, but although legal in Germany and Netherlands, there is no class for them in the UK as yet, which is mental to say the least.

 

It could be that "S" Pedelecs become legal in the UK from 2017, to fall in line with EU legislation, but don't hold your breath as the UK will be able to veto the ruling, and keep "S" Pedelecs outside of UK law.

 

For the type of riding I do, a regular Pedelec will do, and my preferred option is to go for the Bosch Crank Drive system.

 

Electric Hub drives either front or rear wheel, to me seem a real Heath Robinson way of doing things, so I won't be going for that option.

 

Which hub drive bikes have you tested? Which crank drives have you tried?

Have you built or or owned either?

Well the answer to that has to be no, but I am trying my best to make an informed purchase, for when I get my first Ebike.

 

Having only been on this forum for a short time, I can only say a big thanks to members on here guiding me in the right direction, although some members do have a commercial interests for being on here, which I do feel is a little disconcerting, despite there opinions seeming to be none biased to there own interests.

Having only been on this forum for a short time, I can only say a big thanks to members on here guiding me in the right direction, although some members do have a commercial interests for being on here, which I do feel is a little disconcerting, despite there opinions seeming to be none biased to there own interests.

 

Its the commercial boys on here that keep the forum a float with their advertising so no problem with that from me.

Yep, not a problem for me either, it's just a case of reading between the lines.

Yep, not a problem for me either, it's just a case of reading between the lines.

 

You are getting way ahead of yourself here. You need to pay more attention to the actual lines, not what you perceive between them.

 

The OP is (presumably) looking for advice on his/her original topic: 'Looking For a New Fast Ebike'.

 

It's not helpful to the OP for you to chip in with uniformed conjecture presented as informed opinion.

Yeah I'm fairly convinced that a full bike is the way forward rather than a bolt on system. The new bikes are just so much more tidy and "complete". I've seen a fair few mountain bikes being suggested but still not too many suggestions for a commuter bike. Is there a reason for that? Also, is there a tried and tested method for de-restricting the Turbo, for off road use.

Electric Hub drives either front or rear wheel, to me seem a real Heath Robinson way of doing things, so I won't be going for that option.

 

Prolific correspondent here, d8veh, might have a view on that comment but I think you might do well to keep all options open till you have been aboard some of the great EAPCs from which we can choose today.

 

I like crank-drive bikes with torque sensoring and I still own one. However, I have a couple of very good hub-drives, one of which does a great impression of a crank-drive. Ridden blindfolded, were that possible, you probably couldn't tell the difference, even up steep hills.

 

Tom

First of all. This ebike thing is absolutely the best thing! I bought my first ebike two years ago. I have always loved to ride bicycles. Both racebikes on the road and mountainbikes in the dirt. But about four years ago I was in an accident that messed my left knee. After a couple of operations it is starting to work ok. But I had a really hard time on longer trips. So I was almost desperate to fix it. That was why I bought my ebike in the first place. It is a comuter. Scott esportster with bosch crank engine. Now after two years my knee is almost back to it's old strong shape. I have been able to make longer trips with my MTB (no ebike). And it manage to commute 45 Miles 3 to 4 times a week without any problems.

 

But! That ebike "feeling"! The sense of that electric engines torque is almost adictive. Just a week ago I ordered me a new Haibike Sduro Allmtn Plus. It's a Allmountain Fully suspension bike with a Yamaha crank drive. The reason why I shoosed the Yamaha is that the power delivery feels really nice. It's strong and smoth. I know Bosch new system for 2016 is supposed to be as strong as the Yamaha but if you compare the same bikes with same spec the one with Yamaha engines are not as costly as the once with Bosch engines. And as an old cyclist I have big demands on the components. One other benefit I like is the double chainrings in the front.

 

I want only crankdrived ebikes because I think they give the most feel of ordinary bicycle. Only that you feel as you on steroids [emoji48]

Yeah I'm fairly convinced that a full bike is the way forward rather than a bolt on system. The new bikes are just so much more tidy and "complete". I've seen a fair few mountain bikes being suggested but still not too many suggestions for a commuter bike. Is there a reason for that? Also, is there a tried and tested method for de-restricting the Turbo, for off road use.

 

If you want a bike that goes fast a kit on a good quality bike might be a better option. With complete bikes you get what you pay for, and for an everyday commute you want something robust with good components that isn’t going to fall apart after a couple of months. Some of the cheaper bikes are really only good for fun use and won’t take the milage. Look for German or Austrian bikes for that. Kalkhoffs for instance are built like tanks and will take a daily pounding and keep going.

 

If you want to use a bike that is derestricted it becomes an unregistered uninsurable motor vehicle and not a bicycle or pedelec. That is your choice, but you should know the possible downsides and do it with your eyes open. Like so many others new to this you talk about off road, but that is a misnomer. The same laws apply in any public space on or off the road. Only private land with no public access is exempted.