September 3, 20169 yr Author Yes, you'll probably need to decide between weight, power & wheel size. I spent ages looking for a light folder so I know how confusing it can be! My bike handles the small hills round here ok - low gear, high assist & then gentle pedalling is all that's needed but it's not like a moped, you do have to pedal a bit. And that's with a 250w motor. Also, you definitely want to think about comfort as small wheels make for a bumpy ride...20" wheels are more comfortable if you'll be doing a fair few miles. Hopefully you can find a nearby dealer to test ride a few, otherwise the try before you buy offer on the Secret sounds good. Good luck! Thanks Cricket, yes it seems not an easy decision. I will try the kudos secret and may be halfords coyote commute folding ebike as they seem similar , would you mind if I ask which bike you have (I mean the one you are talking about). Thank you
September 3, 20169 yr Thanks Cricket, yes it seems not an easy decision. I will try the kudos secret and may be halfords coyote commute folding ebike as they seem similar , would you mind if I ask which bike you have (I mean the one you are talking about). Thank you Have fun test riding & let us know how you get on. My folder is an A2B Kuo, which has since been discontinued/upgraded to the Kuo+ (and has subsequently gone up in price). It's a great little bike with a handy throttle but the 24v battery definitely doesn't get you as far as the 36v. I have a non folding bike with a 36v battery and I see a big difference.
September 5, 20169 yr Fosse Electric Bikes....have done a good video on both the Kudos K16 and the Kudos Secret,might be useful to you. KudosDave
September 14, 20169 yr Author Thanks Cricket and KudosDave for all your input and sorry for the late delay. My head is swing around all ebikes, kudos secert still an option but I am still keen to find the light weight bike, so at the moment I am looking for other options, see please my new thread http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/add-e-go-e-or-hidden-power-kit.25519/ Thank you all again
October 11, 20169 yr Hi Sarah, The Birdy Red bikes in page 2 of classifieds may be worth a look, small folders with good hill climbing Bionx motor. Front and rear suspension too. I am tempted myself but have 4 pedelecs now. Out of interest are you near Blaydon ? Good luck Snipenose
June 21, 20214 yr The K16 carries my 100 kgs up steep hills with only the single gear. It can do that because it was designed to be a powerful bike up to 15 mph,it has a small chainring and the motor in the 16" wheels has a strong torque reaction. The K16 was designed to be nippy in an urban situation,but the pedal cadence will be high if you are always going fast....to keep the weigh(15kg)t light allowing it to be easily carried on a bus or train you have to compromise on some details. The K16 has such powerful acceleration that we did consider at one point reducing the power but riders soon get used to the power,you will have no problem climbing steep hills. In contrast the Kudos Secret has the same motor,but the motor is inside 20" wheels so the torque reaction is lower, however it has gears with a larger chainring so you can change gears to change the rider torque and have a lower pedal cadence at speed,this does however add 3kg to the weight (total 18kg)so it's not so easy to lift on a bus or train. The K16 and Secret have clearly defined uses,you do have to be careful to look at what you want the usage of the bike and select the one to do your job. Both bikes have the same 10,4 Ah battery which will give 30-40 mile range. Hope that helps,you do need to try a bike,you will soon realise which one is right for you,both bikes are selling very well at the moment,the green colour is very popular. KudosDave Hello, i am interested in the k16. Does high cadence mean the wheels will always spin at the same speed as the wheels when going fast? Do the pedals spin when pushing it along? Thank in advance, Kelly
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