March 15, 20179 yr That works! To be honest ill have no problem killing time in a coffee shop for at least a cpl of hours as ill have to do my notes and revision somewhere and think ill get sick of the van pretty quick The Bosch 500wh batteries are around £700 to buy separately.
March 15, 20179 yr How can it be more reliable than a bike? Do ebikes go wrong alot then? A whole lot more than mopeds unfortunately. There's the usual bike problems when they work hard regularly, including punctures of course, plus the electrical problems that can crop up. Much depends on the usage though, mileage, working hours etc., and there's a luck element as well. One will not get a problem with a particular bike while another owner gets lots. That said, the Bosch units are pretty reliable so one of the better choices. .
March 15, 20179 yr Author http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02586/eleMMent-Palazzo-5_2586939k.jpg Now thats a van! Unfortunatley theres morechance of mine having 'trotters independent traders' written down the side The Bosch 500wh batteries are around £700 to buy separately. Holy cow i wasnt expecting that! Worth it though, no choice really, use one one day the other the next.. Gotta be the way forward, and theyre good for 40-50 miles right? I may be able to get 1.5 days worth out of each battery if thats the case which would make things work out a little easier
March 15, 20179 yr Author A whole lot more than mopeds unfortunately. There's the usual bike problems when they work hard regularly, including punctures of course, plus the electrical problems that can crop up. Much depends on the usage though, mileage, working hours etc., and there's a luck element as well. One will not get a problem with a particular bike while another owner gets lots. That said, the Bosch units are pretty reliable so one of the better choices. . Hmm... Thanks flecc, hopefully ill be one of the lucky ones!
March 15, 20179 yr range will depend how fit you are and lots of other things but id say 35-45 is more like it. if you use a dongle then i get about 25-30 miles.
March 15, 20179 yr Author range will depend how fit you are and lots of other things but id say 35-45 is more like it. if you use a dongle then i get about 25-30 miles. Really?! Thats crap, how do the manufacturers get away with saying theyve got 150km range?! Its absurd!
March 15, 20179 yr Author range will depend how fit you are and lots of other things but id say 35-45 is more like it. if you use a dongle then i get about 25-30 miles. So my £2000 bike has just gone upto £2700 in about 30 minutes, thats some going lol
March 15, 20179 yr Get a Woosh Karoo e road bike with 15ah/540 wh battery good for 70ish miles and a second battery is only circa £300, when all done and dusted the bike if not required will sell easily and quickly on their website. We know it is good for 70 miles because EPJ did an independent unbiased review/evaluation of it and posted it on here.
March 15, 20179 yr you get 4 levels of assist so if you keep it in eco mode and out in more effort then the more range you will get. it wont be 150km tho.
March 15, 20179 yr Author Thanks gents, how reliable is the 50-70 miles though? Just looking at the site and i think the http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?bigbear would be more suitable for me and still only just over a grand so alot more reasonable, how are they on the reliability factor??
March 15, 20179 yr Author Get a Woosh Karoo e road bike with 15ah/540 wh battery good for 70ish miles and a second battery is only circa £300, when all done and dusted the bike if not required will sell easily and quickly on their website. We know it is good for 70 miles because EPJ did an independent unbiased review/evaluation of it and posted it on here. Nice one thanks, great info! Are good general bikes though?
March 15, 20179 yr Thanks gents, how reliable is the 50-70 miles though? Just looking at the site and i think the http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?bigbear would be more suitable for me and still only just over a grand so alot more reasonable, how are they on the reliability factor?? They can brake but woosh have a good reputation for prompt support. No worries choosing them they will do the job at a good price.
March 15, 20179 yr Author They can brake but woosh have a good reputation for prompt support. No worries choosing them they will do the job at a good price. Thanks d8ve!
March 15, 20179 yr EddiePJ was sent a Karoo to review, he lives in hilly Crowboroug in East Sx. http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/2016-woosh-karoo-hub-drive.23864/ For your needs then nearly any bike will do the job you require with a spare battery, if you are thinking of the bike as a permanent fixture then by all means spend wisely.
March 15, 20179 yr Author EddiePJ was sent a Karoo to review, he lives in hilly Crowboroug in East Sx. http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/2016-woosh-karoo-hub-drive.23864/ For your needs then nearly any bike will do the job you require with a spare battery, if you are thinking of the bike as a permanent fixture then by all means spend wisely. Can they have a dongle fitted?
March 15, 20179 yr Dongle not needed as the speed restriction can be removed via the lcd by pressing a few button.
March 15, 20179 yr Remove the speed limit and the range drops verrry quickly. 15 mph is nippy compared to most MTB,s. And will out drag race most cyclists to 15.
March 15, 20179 yr Author Dongle not needed as the speed restriction can be removed via the lcd by pressing a few button. Nice! The big bear is a big heavy bike and im a big heavy bloke so sounds like it could be a perfect match. How would i know what buttons to press or is there something on google about it? How fast will it go upto? Thank you.
March 15, 20179 yr Author Remove the speed limit and the range drops verrry quickly. 15 mph is nippy compared to most MTB,s. And will out drag race most cyclists to 15. Sounds good but itd be nice to 'just have it there' incase i needed it for whatever reason..
March 15, 20179 yr http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/322025572774?lpid=122&chn=ps&adgroupid=36165537022&rlsatarget=pla-277568668550&adtype=pla&poi=&googleloc=9045572&device=c&campaignid=738474636&crdt=0 tho you could use that and the charger you get with it then 4hrs to charge the 500w. ... Not a good call. I am also suggesting that a 12v to 220v AC invertor /convertor , used in conjunction with your vendor supplied battery charger rather than a specialised 12v charger Is the way to go. The difference being that you require a 350w inverter not the powerful beast suggested. That type of inverter is intended to power a chop saw or similar power tool, while the engine is running. A bigger inverter will not charge the battery any faster, and will discharge your vans battery quicker. As an example the Bosch battery charger needs 220v AC at a current of 1.5amp and will output a DC voltage rising to 41v at a current of 4 amps is input power of 330w and outpost power of 160w. The 330w number would be a worst case turning on load and would probably be closer to 200w after switch on. The inverter will draws maximum of 27amp from the car battery and would need to be connected accross the battery rather than via the cigarette lighter socket Other chargers from other bike vendors will be different, but in the same ballpark. I would agree that bringing the battery with you into coffee shops and charging up for an hour on the trot, while taking lunch or breakfast would be the way to go.
March 15, 20179 yr Author ... Not a good call. I am also suggesting that a 12v to 220v AC invertor /convertor , used in conjunction with your vendor supplied battery charger rather than a specialised 12v charger Is the way to go. The difference being that you require a 350w inverter not the powerful beast suggested. That type of inverter is intended to power a chop saw or similar power tool, while the engine is running. A bigger inverter will not charge the battery any faster, and will discharge your vans battery quicker. As an example the Bosch battery charger needs 220v AC at a current of 1.5amp and will output a DC voltage rising to 41v at a current of 4 amps is input power of 330w and outpost power of 160w. The 330w number would be a worst case turning on load and would probably be closer to 200w after switch on. The inverter will draws maximum of 27amp from the car battery and would need to be connected accross the battery rather than via the cigarette lighter socket Other chargers from other bike vendors will be different, but in the same ballpark. I would agree that bringing the battery with you into coffee shops and charging up for an hour on the trot, while taking lunch or breakfast would be the way to go. Thanks dan, even if i didnt totally understand it, im a chef by trade so the most technical i get is switching a blender on but i catch your drift and thanks again.
March 15, 20179 yr The Big Bear unrestricted (don't tell Woosh schhh) will cruise nicely along at 18 - 19.8mph on the flat and about 22 on slight declines find a big hill to go down and you will have a . The J-Lcd is simple just switch it on and long press the up/down buttons together for 5-10secs to enter in to the options to set time, wheel size, speed, imp or metric. The controller will deliver the full 20amps as and when needed going up hill is effortless. Two batteries and you should be good for 3 days I reckon, the problem is you won't want to stop. Edited March 15, 20179 yr by Nealh
March 15, 20179 yr Author The Big Bear will do about 19.8mph on the flat and about 22 on slight declines find a big hill to go down and you will have a . The J-Lcd is simple just switch it on and long press the up/down buttons together for 5-10secs to enter in to the options to set time, wheel size, speed, imp or metric. The controller will deliver the full 20amps as and when needed going up hill is effortless. Niiiiiiice! Im grinning like a cheshire cat Just thinking about it!
March 15, 20179 yr a bosch bike will be a bit faster tho as with the dongle you have all of the 700w motor power. it cost a lot more tho. what the avg speed you get depends how fit you are and what gearing you have.
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