March 15, 20179 yr Really?! Thats crap, how do the manufacturers get away with saying theyve got 150km range?! Its absurd! .. my advice might be contrary to some you have already been given. The Motus is a lovely bike, i have one and am very pleased with it. It may not be optimal for your needs. I see it as better as a suburban or country road type bike, rather than for the city. A bike with smaller wheels is better for inner city use and maybe even a folder which would be easy to get into the van. Small wheels allow faster acceleration and braking and are more manouverable . There are problems with folders as the geometry is not optimised, so a non folding smaller wheeled bike. In reference to your complaint about distances and batterys... There is a huge amount of fantasy about ebike ranges. It takes a certain amount of energy to propel a body up to 15 miles per hour, and whenever the bike brakes to stop all that energy is lost. There is no efficient method of recovering that kinetic energy. If a bike goes up a hill then it requires additional energy, which may or may not be recovered when it comes down the next hill. The tyre pressure contributes to energy loss ... High pressure being better efficiency. Wind and air resistance and rider stance are all major contributors to energy loss. Power loss goes up as the cube of the wind speed. So a bike travelling at 10 miles per hour will consume 8 times more energy than one travelling at 5 miles per hour , in still air... So a lightweight person travelling slowly on level ground in a aerodynamic like stance , without stopping or starting could easily achieve the published target, On a legal bike and if they got up to a speed of 27km hr they could cycle indefinitely without consuming battery power!
March 15, 20179 yr Author a bosch bike will be a bit faster tho as with the dongle you have all of the 700w motor power. it cost a lot more tho. what the avg speed you get depends how fit you are and what gearing you have. [ATTACH=full]18195[/ATTACH] I think im about avg fitness although havent cycled for years... Gearing? I guess itll be whatevers on the bike when i buy it?! I could get two whoosh batts for one bosch so for the sake of 2-3 mph i dont really think theyres much contest imho
March 15, 20179 yr well thats the ps4 and the 55inc tv out the window then ... No they will probably fit within the 350w ceiling. New TVs are really low power.
March 15, 20179 yr For the money it has too be one of the best buys in e bike world, the bpm hub is almost bullet proof may be every 1 - 2k miles or so just open it up and dob some more grease in if it gets a bit noisy and also every 1k check for any grinding noise from the side plate sealed bearing which is a quick 10 min or so replacement job. Gearing wise the bpm (big powerful motor) doesn't really need many but the big bear has plenty to cope. Bloody hell I should be a Woosh salesmen .
March 15, 20179 yr Author .. my advice might be contrary to some you have already been given. The Motus is a lovely bike, i have one and am very pleased with it. It may not be optimal for your needs. I see it as better as a suburban or country road type bike, rather than for the city. A bike with smaller wheels is better for inner city use and maybe even a folder which would be easy to get into the van. Small wheels allow faster acceleration and braking and are more manouverable . There are problems with folders as the geometry is not optimised, so a non folding smaller wheeled bike. In reference to your complaint about distances and batterys... There is a huge amount of fantasy about ebike ranges. It takes a certain amount of energy to propel a body up to 15 miles per hour, and whenever the bike brakes to stop all that energy is lost. There is no efficient method of recovering that kinetic energy. If a bike goes up a hill then it requires additional energy, which may or may not be recovered when it comes down the next hill. The tyre pressure contributes to energy loss ... High pressure being better efficiency. Wind and air resistance and rider stance are all major contributors to energy loss. Power loss goes up as the cube of the wind speed. So a bike travelling at 10 miles per hour will consume 8 times more energy than one travelling at 5 miles per hour , in still air... So a lightweight person travelling slowly on level ground in a aerodynamic like stance , without stopping or starting could easily achieve the published target, On a legal bike and if they got up to a speed of 27km hr they could cycle indefinitely without consuming battery power! Interesting dan, thanks
March 15, 20179 yr Author For the money it has too be one of the best buys in e bike world, the bpm hub is almost bullet proof may be every 1 - 2k miles or so just open it up and dob some more grease in if it gets a bit noisy and also every 1k check for any grinding noise from the side plate sealed bearing which is a quick 10 min or so replacement job. Sweet, sounds like its a go-er then!
March 15, 20179 yr Author Ive gone from 2000 upto 2700 down to 1000 + 300 in the space of about 2 hours, nice work chaps, ive appreciated all your time, knowledge and inputs this evening, very kind of all of you!
March 15, 20179 yr Author you can change the front sprockets 13t to 25t that is a dual kit on my bike. Looks nice!
March 15, 20179 yr Ive gone from 2000 upto 2700 down to 1000 + 300 in the space of about 2 hours, nice work chaps, ive appreciated all your time, knowledge and inputs this evening, very kind of all of you! For the price of the first you can have two of the second to see you through the knowledge! .
March 15, 20179 yr if you want a bosch bike and want no hassle warranty with a dongle then you can only buy them from ebike shop.
March 15, 20179 yr Author For the price of the first you can have two of the second to see you through the knowledge! . Good point, well presented!
March 15, 20179 yr Author if you want a bosch bike and want no hassle warranty with a dongle then you can only buy them from ebike shop. Noted and thanks but i think im leaning towards the whoosher, ive always been a sucker for two for the price of one deals ))
March 15, 20179 yr the bosch/yammah system is better than a hub drive but then you are paying the extra for it plus it will be like fly's to shite for thieves if it is left out side for any amount of time. this is dongle vs no dongle and a 60s head start.
March 15, 20179 yr Author the bosch/yammah system is better than a hub drive but then you are paying the extra for it plus it will be like fly's to shite for thieves if it is left out side for any amount of time. this is dongle vs no dongle and a 60s head start. That is RAPID! I WANT one!
March 15, 20179 yr Author Where are you planning on overnighting mate? Probably head up north london somewhere and some hospitals also have 24-7 parking which cost abt £25 for a week and you can use there washing facilities and restaurants etc..
March 15, 20179 yr get ur cash out then this is what it can do climbing hills no low powerd hub motor can do this esp off road.
March 15, 20179 yr Author get ur cash out then this is what it can do climbing hills no low powerd hub motor can do this esp off road. How much is one?!
March 15, 20179 yr Author get ur cash out then this is what it can do climbing hills no low powerd hub motor can do this esp off road. Its like a scrambler, you must have some nuts to ride like that! Lol
March 15, 20179 yr https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Electric-Bikes-UK-Dealer/Haibike-xDuro-HardSeven-4.0-2017?filter=9 https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Electric-Bikes-UK-Dealer/Haibike-sDuro-HardSeven-4.0-2017?filter=11 the Yamaha bat is £850 tho for a 500w
March 15, 20179 yr Its like a scrambler, you must have some nuts to ride like that! Lol ... Go over a bad bump and that is the first thing to go....
March 15, 20179 yr ... Go over a bad bump and that is the first thing to go.... the cats need a speed upgrade or flashing lights i cant see that when im pissed lol.
March 15, 20179 yr Author https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Electric-Bikes-UK-Dealer/Haibike-xDuro-HardSeven-4.0-2017?filter=9 https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Electric-Bikes-UK-Dealer/Haibike-sDuro-HardSeven-4.0-2017?filter=11 the Yamaha bat is £850 tho for a 500w Whats the top end with dongle and whats the real range of the batts
March 15, 20179 yr for me with a 500w batt its 30 miles tho i change modes and gears when i slow down and speed up and that would be on the flat. you have to learn how fast you can go and how much effort you put in and what mode you like using as it will be different for everyone. i had 2 bars left after that on the 500w batt
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