as long as the hose doesn't go up and back down again.

Good point:)

Dave.

Firstly, what a great thread – definitely helped me make my decision on which bike to go for.

I picked up a Woosh Rio MTB with a 17 AH battery from Southend about 2 weeks ago now and have done approximately 150 miles.

 

Overall, I’ve been hugely impressed with the bike and the customer service Woosh provides.

 

Mine had a small issue with the battery and the way it fitted into the holder. After a mile or so the battery would unclip. I attached a strap to stop it from falling out and emailed Woosh. They sent some instructions over, which I followed, and everything seems to be okay now (though my paranoia has kept the strap on!).

 

A couple of quick questions:

• I’m thinking of putting road tyres on as I will only use the bike to commute in central London. Any hints on which tyre size will fit the bike? Is it any 26” tyre? Would ideally like to get some marathons or equivalent on there!
  
• I tried moving the throttle around a little to make it easier to hold down, but notice it stops working when you do? It worked when I moved it back?
  
• I noticed when I was moving the battery holder that all the cabling is under the bottom fitting. If I were to leave the bike outside in the rain without the battery fitted, I’m assuming I would run the risk of water damage?
  
• What distances are people getting from the 17 AH battery using full assist? It looks like mine might get approximately 40 miles on flat London roads (I’m 70 Kg, 60 PSI tyres) which is lower than I was expecting! Slightly worried the battery bouncing out might have damaged it slightly!
  
• How do I check the voltage of the battery? I noticed that was mentioned a few times in the thread.
  

Any help/feedback would be much appreciated.

 

Courtesy of it's London life, I've gone a bit stealth with the paint job.

 

 

I’m thinking of putting road tyres on as I will only use the bike to commute in central London. Any hints on which tyre size will fit the bike? Is it any 26” tyre? Would ideally like to get some marathons or equivalent on there!

 

Marathon Plus 26 x 2.0 Tour:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Clearance-Pair-Schwalbe-Marathon-Plus-Tour-700-X-40c-Bike-Cycle-Tyres-42-622/2297490012

 

I noticed when I was moving the battery holder that all the cabling is under the bottom fitting. If I were to leave the bike outside in the rain without the battery fitted, I’m assuming I would run the risk of water damage?

 

Rain water will run straight through the controller compartment, through a large gap where the cables come out near the bottom bracket, just below the battery.

The only danger is rain water getting into the thumb throttle and the LCD. Keep the LCD glass tilted so rain water won't dwell on its surface.

 

What distances are people getting from the 17 AH battery using full assist? It looks like mine might get approximately 40 miles on flat London roads (I’m 70 Kg, 60 PSI tyres) which is lower than I was expecting! Slightly worried the battery bouncing out might have damaged it slightly!

 

First, get to know the voltage indicator on the LCD. It has 5 segments, each represents 20% remaining charge, so 5 bars mean 80%+ remaining, 4 bars 60%+ remaining, 3 bars 40% plus remaining, 2 bars 20% plus, 1 bar: less than 20% in the tank.

When you draw a lot of current from the battery, like climbing a hill on throttle, the voltage drops another bar or two, when you ride normally on assist mode, the voltage indicator comes back to normal. To be sure of the reading how much left in the tank, stop for a minute before reading.

 

There is a technique to get the most miles out of a full charge.

Use the lowest pedal assist setting you can, override the assist level when necessary with the throttle.

Typically, leave the assist level on 1 or 2 or 3.

When you are down to 3 bars, use assist level 3 or less, when you are down to 2 bars, use level 2 or less and don't worry when you see 2 bars! There is still enough for 20-30 miles on assist.

Typically, people get about 55 miles out of a 17AH battery.

Power consumption is proportional to speed cubed. Don't derestrict the bike if you want more miles.

How do I check the voltage of the battery? I noticed that was mentioned a few times in the thread.

You have to remove the battery, measure the voltage between the two pins at the output port (round connector).

Marathon Plus 26 x 2.0 Tour:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Clearance-Pair-Schwalbe-Marathon-Plus-Tour-700-X-40c-Bike-Cycle-Tyres-42-622/2297490012

 

 

 

Rain water will run straight through the controller compartment, through a large gap where the cables come out near the bottom bracket, just below the battery.

The only danger is rain water getting into the thumb throttle and the LCD. Keep the LCD glass tilted so rain water won't dwell on its surface.

 

 

 

First, get to know the voltage indicator on the LCD. It has 5 segments, each represents 20% remaining charge, so 5 bars mean 80%+ remaining, 4 bars 60%+ remaining, 3 bars 40% plus remaining, 2 bars 20% plus, 1 bar: less than 20% in the tank.

When you draw a lot of current from the battery, like climbing a hill on throttle, the voltage drops another bar or two, when you ride normally on assist mode, the voltage indicator comes back to normal. To be sure of the reading how much left in the tank, stop for a minute before reading.

 

There is a technique to get the most miles out of a full charge.

Use the lowest pedal assist setting you can, override the assist level when necessary with the throttle.

Typically, leave the assist level on 1 or 2 or 3.

When you are down to 3 bars, use assist level 3 or less, when you are down to 2 bars, use level 2 or less and don't worry when you see 2 bars! There is still enough for 20-30 miles on assist.

Typically, people get about 55 miles out of a 17AH battery.

Power consumption is proportional to speed cubed. Don't derestrict the bike if you want more miles.

 

 

Amazing - thanks as always for your help!

 

The link for the tyres takes you to 700, I'm assuming it's the 26" equivalent?

 

Any hints on the throttle controller not working when adjusted round slightly?

Amazing - thanks as always for your help!

 

The link for the tyres takes you to 700, I'm assuming it's the 26" equivalent?

 

Any hints on the throttle controller not working when adjusted round slightly?

 

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/tyres/26-x-135-inch-35559-schwalbe-marathon-plus-hs440-tyre-26-inch-559/

 

those above don't have reflective band but otherwise just as good and a little cheaper too.

I usually buy a few at a time from Rose bikes to save on postage.

 

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/schwalbe-marathon-plus-clincher-tyre-718649?product_shape=black

 

No, all I can think of is somehow the cable from the thumb throttle may be strained/pulled.

The throttle needs to be activated by pedaling for a second first. Once activated, it will remain active until the motor cuts out. You have to pedal a little again to re-activate it.

If you still think that moving the throttle stops it from working, move the grip, left brake lever and LCD a little to the left out of the way first before moving the throttle to the right.

You may find out what causes it.

 

http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2017/rio-mtb/rio-mtb-6-800.jpg

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/tyres/26-x-135-inch-35559-schwalbe-marathon-plus-hs440-tyre-26-inch-559/

 

those above don't have reflective band but otherwise just as good and a little cheaper too.

I usually buy a few at a time from Rose bikes to save on postage.

 

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/schwalbe-marathon-plus-clincher-tyre-718649?product_shape=black

 

No, all I can think of is somehow the cable from the thumb throttle may be strained/pulled.

The throttle needs to be activated by pedaling for a second first. Once activated, it will remain active until the motor cuts out. You have to pedal a little again to re-activate it.

If you still think that moving the throttle stops it from working, move the grip, left brake lever and LCD a little to the left out of the way first before moving the throttle to the right.

You may find out what causes it.

 

http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2017/rio-mtb/rio-mtb-6-800.jpg

Thank you!

 

Does it make much difference which width I go for? I notice there are options between 1.35 and 2 inches?

Thank you!

 

Does it make much difference which width I go for? I notice there are options between 1.35 and 2 inches?

 

I prefer 26 x 2.0, better for potholes.

First day commuting to work today which was exciting!

 

Sadly I kept getting an "Error 30" displaying, combined with it registering 0 on the speedo afterwards.

 

Any ideas what this could be?

Hello bom,

 

could you please drop us a line to support@wooshbikes.co.uk?

One of us will get it sorted for you.

Hi Whoosh can you tell me how and what i need to bleed the brakes on my brothers Rio thanks

Hi Whoosh can you tell me how and what i need to bleed the brakes on my brothers Rio thanks

can you email support@wooshbikes.co.uk ? it's easier for us.

Tony

I am very sorry about this, the USB port on the battery is not connected.

The online manual has been updated accordingly.

Just bought a Rio and expecting delivery tomorrow , is the usb socket still not connected ?? if not that is very disappointing ..

I am on holiday at the moment - will ask Andy to check it for you.

I am on holiday at the moment - will ask Andy to check it for you.

ok, thanks.. will soon find out, will be delivered today, but it seems odd that Woosh advertise a feature that doesn't work, it's clearly pointed out in the Rio pictures with a big arrow. It's. like saying it has a nice bell but it doesn't ring or lights that don't work.. I've read all the Rio manual and can find no reference to it.

I am on holiday at the moment - will ask Andy to check it for you.

 

I can now confirm that there is definitely no output from the USB socket, which is rather disappointing ..

 

I don't understand why it is shown on the Rio pictures on your website saying that there is.. it's not a big deal but it would have been great if it was working.

 

Other than that I am highly delighted with the bike.. will give a ful review once I have a few miles on the clock ..

 

James

I am on holiday at the moment - will ask Andy to check it for you.

no one has contacted me yet ..

Andy confirmed that the USB port is not connected.

Andy confirmed that the USB port is not connected.

thanks for reply,

 

I'm puzzled why this feature is clearly pointed out on photo of the bike, also puzzled why the battery manufacturer fits a usb socket but doesn't connect it..

thanks for reply,

 

I'm puzzled why this feature is clearly pointed out on photo of the bike, also puzzled why the battery manufacturer fits a usb socket but doesn't connect it..

I don't want to disappoint you, but I'd take ant bet that the forks aren't tapered too.

thanks for reply,

 

I'm puzzled why this feature is clearly pointed out on photo of the bike, also puzzled why the battery manufacturer fits a usb socket but doesn't connect it..

BMW has a similar problem with its cars - they have indicators fitted but never seem to be used by the drivers...allegedly.

I don't want to disappoint you, but I'd take ant bet that the forks aren't tapered too.

not asking about the forks.. so you are not disappointing me.

I'm puzzled why this feature is clearly pointed out on photo of the bike, also puzzled why the battery manufacturer fits a usb socket but doesn't connect it..

the Dorado battery case has provision for a USB socket but the battery factory did not use a BMS with USB output.

I don't want to disappoint you, but I'd take ant bet that the forks aren't tapered too.

it's only a detail but the RST Omega fork is tapered.

You can see the shape change at the base of the head tube. It's much wider at the base than at the top.

 

Edit:

after the USB port, I have to check to be sure.

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by Woosh

the Dorado battery case has provision for a USB socket but the battery factory did not use a BMS with USB output.

fair enough, but should this should not be pointed out in the bike description .. it's misleading to say it has a usb outlet without saying it's not connected .. reading the thread, Woosh have known about this for some time .. Not doing so also affects the reputation on the company and leads seeds of doubt being sown.