Also no because, as I understand it, the system for pricing electricity in this country is based on the price of the most expensive fuel.

As gas is part of our generation fuel, and will continue to be so for years, it's likely to be this price that sets our electricity price, even if the percentage used for generation decreases.

Uranium prices are currently on the rise as world demand increases. ( How nuclear power can be styled as 'clean energy' is beyond me. Suppose it is if you totally ignore the thousand years or so half life of of the waste. But then we've got a planet and enviroment so we can just dump it out of site and hope for the best. Oh wait, isn't it that kind of mentality that got us in the poop in the first place?)

Add to this the continued currency debasement through government printing and deficit spending and inflation is baked into the pie.

So all the claims for decreasing leccy prices due to increased renewables is bull.

How nuclear power can be styled as 'clean energy' is beyond me. Suppose it is if you totally ignore the thousand years or so half life of of the waste.

 

Two reasons it is ultimately clean:

 

Carbon is the main problem causing global warming and nuclear power isn't a CO2 generator.

 

Most of the nuclear waste from ALL stages (mining to consuming in conventional reactors) is depleted uranium which is also a fuel if used in fast breeder reactors. We already have good working fast breeders** but don't do that at present since it is more expensive, but we will when uranium runs out and if we haven't succeeded with fusion. So then almost all of that waste will become a very precious fuel.

 

** French Phoenix and Superphoenix, Russian BN300 and BN 800. The USA had already nominated the BN800 as their chosen fast breeder design if that day arrives, though they have produced their own design since, the travelling wave reactor (TWR).

 

We also produced two, at Winfrith Heath and Dounreay, but made a terrible mess of it with the Dounreay pollution and resulting clean up still present. So hopefully we'll buy French again as we do at present if that day arrives

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Edited January 28, 20233 yr by flecc

Where is global warming when you need it? Not in the Highlsnds for sure!"

I think, however I am no climate scientist, but warming on one side of the planet could cause global cooling on the other side.

 

How nuclear power can be styled as 'clean energy' is beyond me

It also facilitates the system to abstract more money out of it, if it is deemed "clean". As far as the capitalist is concerned if it is not end point profitable then what would be the reward. As for the future fusion etc, the research may be profitable but I doubt the end result will be, however I base that on a hunch without any research of my own. Mr Gates is dabbling in Nuclear as we speak from what I can gather the whole Russian situation is getting in his way.

Carbon is the main problem causing global warming and nuclear power isn't a CO2 generator.

Well yes, if we ignore the massive amounts of carbon up front in all the concrete used. Then theres the complexity of control systems needed to make them safe with all the fail safe backups because any failure is so potentially catastrophic. After all this there's the end of life de-commissioning that no one seems to know the timetable and end costs of yet, leaving us with yet more polluted realestate beyond use for hundreds of years, if not more.

But, true, no carbon at point of generation.

Sorry, even against all the 'evidence' I just can't see it being a viable, affordable, sustainable, or ultimately sensible method of power generation.

It would appear that the only real solution to carbon production is for us all (developed world) to cut our power requirements by 50%. Mmmmm !

Edited January 29, 20233 yr by Benjahmin

Well yes, if we ignore the massive amounts of carbon up front in all the concrete used. Then theres the complexity of control systems needed to make them safe with all the fail safe backups because any failure is so potentially catastrophic. After all this there's the end of life de-commissioning that no one seems to know the timetable and end costs of yet, leaving us with yet more polluted realestate beyond use for hundreds of years, if not more.

But, true, no carbon at point of generation.

 

I hate to think how much concrete and steel is used to build the vast number of wind turbines to get the output of a major nuclear station. And the complexity of their control mechanisms across the over 11,000 of them will easily exceed those of our 6 nuclear power stations.

 

All our attempts at generation result in huge land use and pollution problems.

 

None of these symptoms is a problem, the only problem is the real cause, 8 billion people where there were 2 billion when I was born. Four times the number on a planet that doesn't grow, instead having rapidly shrinking resources.

 

Until we have the guts to face that root cause, all our efforts are in vain.

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I hate to think how much concrete and steel is used to build the vast number of wind turbines to get the output of a major nuclear station. And the complexity of their control mechanisms across the over 11,000 of them will easily exceed those of our 6 nuclear power stations.

 

All our attempts at generation result in huge land use and pollution problems.

 

None of these symptoms is a problem, the only problem is the real cause, 8 billion people where there were 2 billion when I was born. Four times the number on a planet that doesn't grow, instead having rapidly shrinking resources.

 

Until we have the guts to face that root cause, all our efforts are in vain.

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The Sci-Fi film & TV series 'Logan's Run' had the answer.

The Sci-Fi film & TV series 'Logan's Run' had the answer.

 

Any successful answer to limit the population at a defined level will be very unpleasant since it will be one of two possible solutions:

 

Compulsory and unavoidable birth control.

 

Or

 

A defined upper age limit for termination.

 

Unless nature gets better at producing truly effective pandemics.

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I think, however I am no climate scientist, but warming on one side of the planet could cause global cooling on the other side.

Sadly not!

 

The 'big picture' explanation of global warming/heating/climate change is actually extremely simple.

 

More energy is arriving from space i.e. from our sun than is leaving, and the difference is staying here. That accumulation of energy is stored as heat, and so the average temperature of everything that constitutes 'Earth' is rising. That includes land, sea and atmosphere. The vast majority of the excess heat is ending up in the oceans - about 93%.

 

The 'change' part of it is the changed effectiveness of the atmosphere acting as a heat retaining blanket due to the accumulation of greenhouse gases.

 

Like putting another layer of clothes on. Heat can't escape so fast, so you warm up.

 

All the weather phenomena we are increasingly seeing is down to more energy in the warmer seas putting more energy into the atmosphere, and then just physics!

More UK instabilitly could be on the way as Shell ponder on withdrawing from UK & EU retail sector according to a Reuters.

 

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Shell has launched a strategic review of its home energy retail businesses in Britain, the Netherlands and Germany in the wake of "tough market conditions", it said on Thursday.

 

European energy suppliers have struggled over the past year with soaring wholesale prices and efforts by governments to shield consumers from rising bills.

 

No decision has been taken yet on the future of the businesses, Shell said.

 

Shell injected nearly $1.5 billion in cash and credit into its British energy retail business in 2022 to help it weather huge volatility in power prices that caused the collapse of several rival UK utilities.

 

Shell said its wholesale and business-to-business (B2B) energy supply businesses are not part of the strategic review, and neither are its home energy supply businesses in the United States and Australia.

If other energy companies are tripling their profits then maybe trying to play both sides of the market is catching up with Royal Dutch Shell (RDS the 'shell' company)?

"Welcome to Shell Energy We supply 100% renewable electricity, as well as gas, smart home technology and broadband"

Coal anyone? Greta swears by it!

"I just got carried away" said Greta! And rumours of new boyfriends are premature. (Nice clean boots despite the mud, mm)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbUbJetZIRU

https://www.treehugger.com/the-centralia-fire-has-been-burning-underground-for-over-50-years-5204217

"Burning for over 50yrs.. and.. may burn for thousands more".

Q. If co2 is really such an existential threat, why don't they put out these fires?

A: They don't really care, it's all a distraction.

 

(Sorry previous pics displayed so small, hehe. They're OK on phone, but tiny on a tablet for some reason. Are they ok on PC?)

(Sorry previous pics displayed so small, hehe. They're OK on phone, but tiny on a tablet for some reason. Are they ok on PC?)

 

The Greta and Shell ones were tiny, like 211 x 110 pixels, but Balkan News one ok full size on PC.

 

As for the underground fires, too expensive to put out, many in the USA, India and Australia alone, and a fair bet more in the other coal rich countries like South America, China and the former Soviets.

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https://odysee.com/@wayoftheworld:7/nothingisreal:e?r=HzWprRdQmDBKxRsfbtqNic7t7ES5yfbW

Here's a clearer video of Greta stopping smiling and laughing with the cops, got serious for take 2, lights, camera, action!

https://odysee.com/@ADVChina:6/china%E2%80%99s-coal-lie-we-went-to-china%E2%80%99s:8?r=HzWprRdQmDBKxRsfbtqNic7t7ES5yfbW

Greta tries to close Germany's coal mines..

China says, "hold my beer, I'll show you a proper one"!

(Sorry about Ad, but hey ho)

"It takes diesel generator 8 hrs to charge an electric mini-digger to do 2 hrs of work".

Think simple maths show it’s 2 steps forward…8 steps back… for a net loss of -6. Not favorable.

 

Next story was of those West Virginia miners pushing a dead electric car to the mine to also be charged on a diesel generator:D.

(Can't post link coz 'Salty Cracker' swears so mucho_O).

 

Another electric car owner reported going skiing, but had to leave car for 8hour charge "when it got warm enough for car to accept charging"!

 

I've just charged my bike battery from mains, probably powered by gas or coal baseload grid, and I hear the grid losses alone are 24%?

Aye employment scarring, now the water companies want there share of the pie up near 12%, I was surprised the Fed did 25 basis points, he looked like someone was really tugging on them strings, I get the feeling they wanted 50, but the Oligarch's are too busy creaming off the pump n dump cash like taking candy from mom n pops retail investors... I think the BoE wanted the Fed to do 50 so we could do 75, but alas we did 50, Rishi is insistent on halving inflation but even if they do it'll will only be a temp fix until they change the CPI metrics then it'll look fine but get much worse, imo inflation is too entrenched to leave anytime soon & if per se it does return to 2% it'll be over fudged and/or higher prices will have already done lasting damage.

Some don't have to worry about energy costs. "Davos jet set emissions more than 1,500 tons of carbon. Equivalent to 1.6million pounds of coal". And exempt from EU "Carbon Tax".

At least the co2 will boost food production around our world now 15% greener than before, hehe

So out of interest people, if we was to take the EBSS cash (£66/£67) as technical cash we would have to include as we all used it to heat/power our homes, as cash we put in, what is our monthly(31 days) Gas & Elecy use, for lets say Jan 2023?

 

Mine was £162 for Gas + £162 for Elecy Totalling £325 Average daily use was 2x PC's on low wattage, oven, kettle, boiler, fridge, ebike charging (top-up charge daily), hair dryer(yes I have amazing hair at 42 but alas the other half uses the hair dryer), clothes dryer & phone etc. Heating was on 7-9 hours a day.

My Jan bill (3 bed semi) was a bit excessive for my use Gas was nearly £95 and Elec £62.

Heating is on constant but thermostat controlled, it is set for 15c downstairs and with heat rising upstairs if usually about 18c or I turn it down/off if feeling warm. Mainly it use is mid to late afternoon thru to about 9 a.m to keep my felines comfortable, during the day if chilly heat is supplemented by an open fire.

 

I can't or don't like the heat to high as it sets off my asthma.

 

Pond pump 40w odd runs 24/7, two freezers, fridge , tumble dryer/ wash machine and all other usual electrical appliances. I don't like unnatural bright lights so usually just have a table lamp on with 10w eco bulb when dusk sets in.

 

In the summer/winter curtains are drawn to prevent heat ingress or heat loss, despite having D/G it soon helps to warm or cool a room so summer curtains help to minimise the radiation in and winter helps with heat loss the opposite way.

My biggest cold areas are the double glass panels on the front door and side light into the porch and the rear kitchen door, for these I cover with removable thermal curtains (using velcro fittings) in the winter before dusk and in the summer they go on when the sun moves around.

Edited February 10, 20233 yr by Nealh

I have had the heating on more in Jan as I wired in a new more accurate thermostat (Salus brand) replacing the 50 year old (Honeywell one )which tbh wasn't very temp accurate. I'm not one who can sit around with little clothes on as I never feel comfy so tbh 14 -15c feels comfy to me.

 

Last year from March to December my bills ranged for dual fuel £55 per month to £87 with an average being £70, Jan was fairly cold so heating on a bit more then usual which is to be expected, Nov and early Dec were very mild.

 

My energy acc is a little in credit so with the current EBSS my Nov fuel D/D was £19, Jan £32 and Feb £22. I don't have a energy meter to get paranoid about and think they are a waste of money providing them.

If I want to know how much a certain piece of equipment or appliance costs to run on an hourly basis I use a plug in watt meter (where one inputs the E unit cost) to calc electricity use/cost.

Edited February 10, 20233 yr by Nealh

My dad fixed his prices before this mess started, so please mention if you fixed or not - thanks - Are you on a fix Nealh? because you get great value.

 

As mentioned in previous posts, I am on prepay & I don't or my pad doesn't feel warm at 20.8 degs, 23 is perfect, 24 hot, maybe it's T1D, bad insulation & roughly installed double glazing. I got a 15 tog duvet & that shaved a quid off my daily gas, as, over night I was freezing which in turn makes me hypo. I wear two fleeces during the day & keep the heating off from 9am-4pm, on for a hour then off till 9pm off at 11pm and staggered from 4am-9am, Kudos for posting, I hope more add their info.

 

to keep my felines comfortable

Yep mine lives a life of Riley. The opulent ginger ninja.

 

open fire

My great granddad was last dude I knew with an open fire. Proper old school farm house as it was built, I don't even think it had gas heating all open fire water system, tbf I never went up stairs, the outhouse was for peeing. It had old pig sty's the lot. Fond memories.