October 4, 20232 yr https://planetradio.co.uk/greatest-hits/cambridgeshire/news/dad-lost-everything-in-e-bike-fire/
October 4, 20232 yr Here's actual footage from my Illuminati World Orgy Management Domination Seminar - someone lit a 18650 and waved it around mumbling stuff, then I was ordered to strip: It'd be cheaper to make a steel box to charge your battery in, by bolting together 5mm thick steel sheet, to bolt to a large long handled spade, with the open end forward to prevent flaming blasts to your face and body. Forward thrust from the explosions and jets of flame could fully open the window you've left slightly ajar. Fling the flaming battery out at something cheaper to replace than your house and belongings. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253743344665 My battery store is in the garage, and I made it from (basically) two paving slabs - one top, one bottom, with brick for the back and side walls. No cement (yet). A loose brick front facing into open space, and loose bricks as battery separators. Bulky, but effective and free!
October 4, 20232 yr After somebody posting here (and watching a ridiculous number of youtube videos where people had caused battery explosions and tried using different containers) I got an old ammo box (and stripped off the rubber seal so it wasn't airtight) https://preppersshop.co.uk/military-storage-411-c.asp
October 4, 20232 yr https://planetradio.co.uk/greatest-hits/cambridgeshire/news/dad-lost-everything-in-e-bike-fire/ Great tragedy... Scott is dedicated to raise awareness now. Maybe at some point he will be ready to share more details about battery he bought. Was it a right voltage? Was fast charger used?
October 4, 20232 yr I got an old ammo box (and stripped off the rubber seal so it wasn't airtight) I am not sure if it is a good idea. Depending on intensity of fire you might be just creating a bomb. It won't protect from toxic smoke anyway... Do you keep it outside?
October 4, 20232 yr I am not sure if it is a good idea. Depending on intensity of fire you might be just creating a bomb. It won't protect from toxic smoke anyway... Do you keep it outside? In the garage - let me find the youtube videos !
October 4, 20232 yr In the garage That is ok then. I hope you have smoke alarm there as well, so you have time to react in worst case scenario.
October 4, 20232 yr After somebody posting here (and watching a ridiculous number of youtube videos where people had caused battery explosions and tried using different containers) I got an old ammo box (and stripped off the rubber seal so it wasn't airtight) https://preppersshop.co.uk/military-storage-411-c.asp Peter’s ammo box idea I like! Just ordered two on eBay for £20 the pair delivered.
October 4, 20232 yr let me find the youtube videos ! Keep in mind exploding batteries on those videos were tiny. I would drill some holes for controlled smoke release.
October 4, 20232 yr This thread is embarrasing. There is a lot of really useful information on this forum but it's getting increasingly hard to find because some of you are trying to turn it into a comedy blog. Well done lads.
October 4, 20232 yr Great tragedy... Indeed. Even a small phone battery can have severe consequences. into a comedy blog …next to my petrol jerry can and bbq gas bottles! "bbq gas bottles" maybe be humour, but it could also be used as a nudge to heed caution when trying to be safe. Kudos [mention=40675]Cisco-man[/mention] - Sometimes if you don't laugh you will cry.
October 4, 20232 yr Keep in mind exploding batteries on those videos were tiny. I would drill some holes for controlled smoke release. seemed a reasonable amount - they seemed to fill the ammo box - not sure on the voltage but e.g
October 4, 20232 yr I got an old ammo box I actually like this one: https://preppersshop.co.uk/british-military-105mm-large-ammo-box-15483-p.asp Looks like it has controlled smoke release vents and could be great to store tools and other bobs and bits.
October 4, 20232 yr Indeed. Even a small phone battery can have severe consequences. "bbq gas bottles" maybe be humour, but it could also be used as a nudge to heed caution when trying to be safe. Kudos [mention=40675]Cisco-man[/mention] - Sometimes if you don't laugh you will cry. Indeed, I’m trying to put it across that you need to think about it - tongue in cheek albeit.
October 4, 20232 yr There is a lot of common sense lacking in this thread and to much hysteria . Nearly all fires we see or hear about are down to inappropriate chargers being used and lack of judgement in charging techinques. Years ago this forum was a good place to come to for advise with no nonsense and great knowledge though there were afew arguments , now it is full of trash and ciphering the bad from the good is a lot worse then ever before.
October 4, 20232 yr Tbf that article highlighted, to me, & I do grieve for the family, the ignorance experienced by gen pop. I know that busy lives etc have a huge part to play in modern life, however to totally unaware that, lithium batteries can fault, more often than not when charging is beyond me. The countless media stories, overheating phones (past & present), product recalls from top brands, cargo ships ablaze carrying ev's, the list goes on. Then fire safety, never block an exit, regardless of the knowledge you have or don't have; always have a fire plan, for me, before ebike & batteries, when I moved in it was drunk(I was censored)-heads smoking and falling asleep. Where has common sense gone... A rhetorical question tbf
October 4, 20232 yr Tbf that article highlighted, to me, & I do grieve for the family, the ignorance experienced by gen pop. I know that busy lives etc have a huge part to play in modern life, however to totally unaware that, lithium batteries can fault, more often than not when charging is beyond me. The countless media stories, overheating phones (past & present), product recalls from top brands, cargo ships ablaze carrying ev's, the list goes on. Then fire safety, never block an exit, regardless of the knowledge you have or don't have; always have a fire plan, for me, before ebike & batteries, when I moved in it was drunk(I was censored)-heads smoking and falling asleep. Where has common sense gone... A rhetorical question tbf Insurance companies have a role to play here. They should be (and probably soon will be) dictating what people should be doing and using, to charge and store these batteries. As Neilh says, if they are charged with a good charger, stored safely (and also not dropped) then all will be ok.
October 4, 20232 yr Where has common sense gone. When tragedies like this occur, I suspect there is also a degree of 'its not my fault'. Unless someone is a complete hermit from the news and social media, an eBike user will have heard about eBike fires. So a simple bit of thought should suggest to a user thats its probably not a good idea to charge an eBike when it is left in a hallway or blocking an exit route etc. Hoewever, when it goes wrong, and there is a fire, its probably unlikely that someone would own up to knowing that where\when they were charging the eBike was dangerous.
October 4, 20232 yr Insurance companies have a role to play here. They should be (and probably soon will be) dictating what people should be doing and using, to charge and store these batteries. That could happen, as in the policy excluding fire damage caused by battery fires indoors. But then I bet a lot of people dont read the insurance small print anyway, if they do have insurance that is.
October 4, 20232 yr That could happen, as in the policy excluding fire damage caused by battery fires indoors. But then I bet a lot of people dont read the insurance small print anyway, if they do have insurance that is. The difference is that these batteries are now becoming a MAJOR part of all our lives.
October 4, 20232 yr The difference is that these batteries are now becoming a MAJOR part of all our lives. True. In addition, its possible that those of us who buy house insurance and take the most basic of precautions are subsidising the premiums of those that know the risks, but choose to ignore them. A disclaimer: I have no idea if any of the eBike fires have resulted in claims on house insurance.
October 4, 20232 yr Insurance companies have a role to play here. They should be (and probably soon will be) dictating what people should be doing and using, to charge and store these batteries. Insurance companies won't be educating people. They will only add small print to policy to mitigate financial risk to themselves.
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