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  1. flecc

    The Best Mobile Telephone Ever Made for only £9.10

    No, I'm not a mobile phone fan which is why no-one has the number. It really is just outgoing only for personal emergencies, like breakdowns etc. I think all phones can be a curse, so the last thing I want is one ringing me while I'm out and about. P.S. Each two months when I charge it I...
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    The Best Mobile Telephone Ever Made for only £9.10

    I've also got an ancient Nokia, a model 1112 which was £9 new. Still works perfectly on it's first battery, but I only have it for emergencies if any occur when on the road. And none have ever occurred yet! It normally lives switched off all the time, but gets charged once every two months to...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    I just cannot see that this is true though, disability by its nature precludes equality, and that is all that is present in this issue. We are speaking of electric assist pedal cycles, aka pedelecs. Both expressions have the clear implication that the ability to pedal is necessary, with...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    I don't think we've any way of knowing yet, but I assume mainly a check there is compliance with the exemption conditions, other than the throttle. Testing might just be confined to a check on the assist limit and the brake cut-outs. I imagine they might accept the EN15194 certification for...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    But won't this be irrelevant when the type approval for EAPCs is in place? Then there will be no breach of rights, since all will be able to buy both throttle and pedelec EAPCs for identical bureacracy free use. Pending that new type approval law, anyone can create or have created a legal new...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    It's what used to be called an Autocycle long ago, like the one below. They were pedal to start the 98cc engine but nearly impossible to pedal for more than a very few yards, due to the weight and drag: .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That amused me too. However, his exaggeration is probably only an attempt to trump the other Donald. ;) .
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    eBikes with Integral Battery

    Link 1 to Stealth/Alamo post Link 2 to other images and specs. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This yo-yo swinging will inevitably happen, but it probably means little. The most crucial thing will be what happens on Monday 20th, Tuesday 21st and Wednesday 22nd since that can and probably will decide the outcome on the 23rd. Up until these days all the previous claims and counterclaims...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    The spirit of the DfT provision for conversions is very clear and doesn't provide for such dodges to circumvent both the law and what they've said. We all know what "normal bicycle" means. Adding to my previous answer, we've got what we wanted as shown below: Conversions of existing normal...
  11. flecc

    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    True, but it's an obvious attempt to circumvent the law which I think would be very foolish. The DfT have used the expression "normal bicycle" in their discussions on conversion. I think even discussing this is unwise, it only needs the moped interests to get wind of this back door method to...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    That's the trouble with these informal documents on guidance etc, they are often loosely worded or even incomplete. I only take notice of the actual legislation. To enlarge on my previous answer, as far as the DfT were concerned, the discussion agreement for Twist and Go was an agreement that...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    Yes, they cannot overrule the EU law, and were to some extent bound by the fact that the 1983 law is still in force, just amended to fit the current EU law. These official group discussions are all very well, but it's only when back in the office that the details can be looked into in depth and...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    This where you saw marked in a guidance sheet on the law. It referred to manufactured bikes constructed to current EU legislation, presumably marked as part of the manufactured finish. Our conversions fit the second case needing a plate added: The vehicle must be: either marked with the...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    I did read your post and found it difficult to understand. It doesn't matter what language they used in the discussion, much of which was very informal and jokey anyway. It's the law that counts and that doesn't mention "mark". In the original 1983 law it refers to plate, and in the 2015...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    There's no confusion. The law does include that the plate has to be fitted to all EAPCs. Only new manufactured EAPCs have to be type approved, and the approval excludes them having a throttle. A conversion cannot be type approved and there is no need for a single vehicle approval. That means...
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    Giant lafree twist lite 2006

    They were discontinued in 2006 so spares availability went into decline. The batteries were discontinued almost two years ago and are no longer available. All you can do now is to use another battery and arrange connections from it to the battery platform connectors. The battery can be...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    The difference is that creating an EAPC by adding a kit to a bicycle does not require type approval so does not utilise the exemption in the type approval law. Therefore a throttle does not evade the law. A manufactured EAPC does rely on the exemption to be on the road, and that exemption...
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    News - DfT: Pedal cycles converted to ‘twist and go’ exempt from type approval

    I thought that would be the answer, but I can't see that can be true after just adding such a minor thing as a throttle. The pedelec would still be the original brand of EAPC and the same type of vehicle in law. There's a precedent. If a disabled person has a car converted from foot to hand...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But my position is based on the issues, I prefer the EU mix to the UK one. On social policy it's the EU, on attitudes to wars it's the EU. On justice it's the EU. On past and present UK trading evidence, it's being in the EU. The objections on immigration I recognise have some validity to...