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  1. flecc

    Giant Lafree Comfort 4 speed

    No, not if your gear hub is working OK, it was only some that failed. But that together with the smaller sales of the 4 speed and them being discontinued in 2004 just means there's very few owners who could reply with photos in response to your request. Just the drop-out repair should be fine. .
  2. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    Like KTM I'm not aware of any rejection by the EU, it appears the DfT made their own decision about how to proceed. I agree that it would have been better for throttle permission as an EAPC without type approval to continue in the UK but see this as a lost cause. No matter how many moan about...
  3. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    Indeed, the whole discussion is premature anyway. It's still ok to sell and use full throttle e-bikes at present during the permitted period for clearing stocks which still has very many months left. And the the new type approval isn't even possible until after 31st December 2016 when the new...
  4. flecc

    Will the end of full speed throttles in January 2016 cause a rush to buy.

    And often higher efficiency too, when the restricted speed corresponds to the point of highest motor efficiency, as it often does. .
  5. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    I'm not arguing with your contention, having owned both types at the same time over years I know what you say about better control in some circumstances is perfectly true. But as I said, it's politically a very dangerous argument since it's inadvertantly inviting more restrictions as described...
  6. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    They are liable for all the penalties applicable to using a non-type approved, unregistered, unlicenced, uninsured motor vehicle, and possibly without an appropriate driving licence*. The total financial penalties could be costly and penalty points for being uninsured will be applied to any...
  7. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    They aren't, the EU says nothing whatsoever about throttles. This situation arises since a pedelec is defined amongst other things as having assist power being controlled by the pedals. The reason is to keep them as close as possible to being normal bikes so that they don't have to have...
  8. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    This is the most dangerous argument for throttles that I've ever seen! Basically you are saying that a bicycle is dangerous in the presence of pedestrians, since all bicycle control of power is though the pedals. That has two implications: First that all shared use paths should be...
  9. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    You are just being cussed, why ask me when I listed the past evidence of how makers react to demand, even where the demand is illegal. If there's a demand for full throttles and there is a legal path to supply, the makers will use it of course. .
  10. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    The type approval in the new regulations is simply to conform to EU regulations, and the changes in the new type approval regulations ensure it will be easily achievable. None of the other things listed are required in the new regulations since the e-bikes in question are being treated as...
  11. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    But that isn't true is it. All the foregoing posters wanting throttles clearly do know what they want. There's nothing special about e-bikes, it's a demand and supply market like any other, if a demand exists there will be someone jumping in to supply it. Nor will full throttle bikes be...
  12. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    I think you are splitting hairs. Clare was addressing the concerns expressed by some during the consultation that the DfT held, and those concerns were about usage. Twist-and-go are designated as EAPCs as far as riders are concerned. The manufacture and supply is no business of owners and...
  13. flecc

    Where Do You Live V2.0

    You're in Bikerun, riding on Hampton Lane near Harry's Fish and Kebab Shop: Map Link .
  14. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    This is a confusion of marketing and usage. Clare has kept her word since in the UK and uniquely in the EU, anyone's usage of a type approved twist-and-go will be treated as pedelec riding. It's the makers who are affected by the type approval ruling, not you as a rider. .
  15. flecc

    Giant Lafree Comfort 4 speed

    Four speed versions are scarce Barry. That gear hub suffered a number of failures in handling both rider and motor power in the Lafree so Shimano ceased the four speed hub manufacture in 2004 and have only made the three speed and seven or more speed since. Giant replaced the Lafree's four...
  16. flecc

    Let's keep the throttle!

    Clare Perry has kept that promise as KTM have said above, twist and go just needs to be type approved to keep within the law. It's up to manufacturers and suppliers whether they become available type approved, Clare Perry cannot order them to market such machines, that depends upon there being...
  17. flecc

    Will the end of full speed throttles in January 2016 cause a rush to buy.

    Here's a possible spanner in the works regarding throttles. 1) As I've observed previously a torque sensor is a foot operated throttle over the whole permitted assist speed range and that's legal. 2) Those who cannot pedal a bicycle through some leg disability can ride hand operated bicycles...
  18. flecc

    Will the end of full speed throttles in January 2016 cause a rush to buy.

    We aren't at odds on this, my wish for throttles is only in respect of those who are unable to always ride pedelec only through some minor physical impairment. The key phrase in my comment repeated below is "more riders", i.e. the physically impaired. The rest of us are already empowered with...
  19. flecc

    Will the end of full speed throttles in January 2016 cause a rush to buy.

    Of course I agree, but that is a tiny sector compared to the overall possible market as countries like The Netherlands and Germany show. Our e-bike market is small because our cycling market is small, nothing to do with whether throttles are allowed or not. When getting an e-bike first occurs...
  20. flecc

    Will the end of full speed throttles in January 2016 cause a rush to buy.

    Of course having throttles isn't the reason for much lower UK sales than some pedelec only markets, but on the evidence, doing away with throttles doesn't necessarily cause a drop in sales. .