It's not a speed thing. It's a convenience thing.

 

Tapatalk, as many apps for smart phones, is dedicated to one task, and so much more streamlined.

 

My laptop is of a similar spec to your PC.

 

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That's personal taste then, and I don't find using a smartphone or tablet either convenient or suitable for what I want.

 

For much of what I do while online a smartphone is not suitable, so I'd find one far too restrictive.

 

I'm also well aware of the mistakes Tapatalk users post and their frequent complaints about something not accessible or that cannot be done.

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That's personal taste then.

 

I didn't say it wasn't personal taste, but I wanted to address the general sentiment that to read text from a forum it's imperative to have an i7 processor, 16GB of RAM and a 100Mbps connection.

 

It's also important to understand that bandwidth and speed are different things.

 

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I didn't say it wasn't personal taste, but I wanted to address the general sentiment that to read text from a forum it's imperative to have an i7 processor, 16GB of RAM and a 100Mbps connection.

 

what planet are you on

if you need a power pc i could build one around this.

 

https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X10QBL-4CT.cfm

 

that should do 2 forums at the same time

I didn't say it wasn't personal taste, but I wanted to address the general sentiment that to read text from a forum it's imperative to have an i7 processor, 16GB of RAM and a 100Mbps connection.

 

It's also important to understand that bandwidth and speed are different things.

 

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Why would I think those? I use the resources for the parallel things I often do when online, and not just in this forum.

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I just have cheap bog standard broadband with 8mb download speed...... doesn't cause me any probs. I can read/post on all my forums and watch vids on my Windows laptop and Chromebook fine.

I have a smart phone but only use it for the net if I am away from home, my tablet hasn't been used in months, both are such a poor experience compared to a PC.

 

My PC is in the lounge other wise the wife complains about not seeing me and we have a 100/40 connection hardwired

 

The most useful feature on a smart phone in my opinion is the camera, I never need to carry notes, remember prices or specs when shopping just take a photo, dismantling something for the first time take a photo of the steps if needed etc.

You guys at the cutting edge of cycle technology and yet you shun the smartphone! Just collected my Moto G4 from Tesco, cost me £50 after I boosted my Clubcard vouchers.

 

Can't wait to get home and set it up, but I am stuck in the pub on my Moto G3 with beer still to drink

 

I most strongly disagree.

Cutting edge in cycling is recumbents. Comfortable and energy efficient. That's the cutting edge.

Electric motors are so old from around 1920's I think.

 

Humbug mutter mutter.

Cutting edge in cycling is recumbents. Comfortable and energy efficient. That's the cutting edge.

 

Nope, about the same age as the electric bike:

"the first recorded illustration of a recumbent considered as a separate class of bicycle is considered to be in the magazine Fliegende Blätter of September 10, 1893. This year also saw what is considered the first genuine recumbent, the Fautenil Vélociped. "

I know that they are an old design but they are developing. The seventies began the Renaissance with human powered vehicles.

The are the future just ask Sir Clive Sinclare

My geriatricphone is probably powered by steam.

Because I live in the country, my computer is probably slow.

But the pace of life here is slow also.

Why fret?

I have a smart phone that was second hand when my daughter got it.

The only use I have for it is the camera and sometimes the torch.

I prefer to sit at my computers (I have two) for browsing etc.

I well understand what a smartphone can do, but I don't need or even have a use for most of those things. I don't need a map/satnav since I have a much better one in my car and don't get lost when I'm walking. I've got far better torches for when I'm out on a wildlife pursuit at night and I really don't want portable TV! As for prices, I'm generally uninterested in discounts since I prefer to buy the best and are not obsessed with cost. All too often one man's discount is another's poor wage. In any case, shopping for something is far superior on a good size hi-res screen.

 

And my computer is far from slower than a smartphone. Intel 7 3.6 gb processor, tons of RAM, all solid state hard drives and top speed fibre optic connection sees to that. (see below)

 

If circumstances change and I find a use for a smartphone that's an advantage for me, I'll buy one immediately, but that isn't the case at present.

 

Internet speed just checked:

 

Download speed = 84.83 Mb/sec.

 

Upload speed = 18.2 Mb/sec.

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Flecc you may be misunderstanding me, the speed of a smartphone is that it is always on, no boot up time - instant internet access, instant email wherever you may be.

 

I too have sat nav in my car, it does not have live traffic though, maps are out of date on release and cost more than a smartphone to update. No touch screen to scroll and zoom and doesn't even support full post code. Worse still out of my car it is useless.

 

The torch isn't for night forays into the woods, it is for reading the gas meter finding the outside loo, or just getting a bit more light on some very small print. Always in your pocket though.

 

Never caught out without a camera/ video camera as always with you.

 

With regard discounts, let me know what you want and how much you expect to pay and I will provide it and keep the difference, unless you object to me enhancing my poor wage .

Flecc you may be misunderstanding me, the speed of a smartphone is that it is always on, no boot up time - instant internet access, instant email wherever you may be.

 

I too have sat nav in my car, it does not have live traffic though, maps are out of date on release and cost more than a smartphone to update. No touch screen to scroll and zoom and doesn't even support full post code. Worse still out of my car it is useless.

 

The torch isn't for night forays into the woods, it is for reading the gas meter finding the outside loo, or just getting a bit more light on some very small print. Always in your pocket though.

 

Never caught out without a camera/ video camera as always with you.

 

With regard discounts, let me know what you want and how much you expect to pay and I will provide it and keep the difference, unless you object to me enhancing my poor wage .

 

I do understand as I have friends with them and have played with a couple of theirs. They are brilliant for those who want or need what they offer, but I simply don't want one for the reasons I've mentioned previously a few times, some examples below:

 

I have a mobile but never have it with me since the last thing I want when out is to receive a phone call. Nor do i want internet access when out, nor do I need Sat Nav when out walking. My mobile is permanently switched off and is only for emergencies when travelling afar.

 

I never want to peer at a sat-nav when driving for obvious reasons, so on the rare occasions when I use my Tom Tom it's well out of eyeline and on voice commands, far safer. I've got lifetime GB maps so no update costs there and aren't bother about having traffic warnings for my very few distant journeys.

 

I'm retired so my computer does everything I want. Boot up time doesn't figure, since not only does it's spec ensure that's in seconds, as it's all solid state it's always on from first thing in the morning so just as instantly ready all day long as any smartphone.

 

And the final killer, I don't even have half a G at home! Indeed I can only rarely get one signal strength bar up in my home, despite being in a London borough. Our homes are on the lee side of a valley and completely masked from the cellphone masts on the North Downs to our south. One company wanted to install a relay mast a few years ago to give our homes coverage, but one local nutter had a campaign against it on "radiation" grounds and the company backed off. Now no-one's interested since there are so few homes involved.

 

So to conclude as I've said before, if ever I do find something I really want one for, I'll immediately get one. I'm far from technology shy, quite the opposite in fact, as my remote controlled home shows. And yes, I know a smartphone can do that too, but not as well as what I've got now.

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I do understand as I have friends with them and have played with a couple of theirs. They are brilliant for those who want or need what they offer, but I simply don't want one for the reasons I've mentioned previously a few times, some examples below:

 

I have a mobile but never have it with me since the last thing I want when out is to receive a phone call. Nor do i want internet access when out, nor do I need Sat Nav when out walking. My mobile is permanently switched off and is only for emergencies when travelling afar.

 

I never want to peer at a sat-nav when driving for obvious reasons, so on the rare occasions when I use my Tom Tom it's well out of eyeline and on voice commands, far safer. I've got lifetime GB maps so no update costs there and aren't bother about having traffic warnings for my very few distant journeys.

 

I'm retired so my computer does everything I want. Boot up time doesn't figure, since not only does it's spec ensure that's in seconds, as it's all solid state it's always on from first thing in the morning so just as instantly ready all day long as any smartphone.

 

And the final killer, I don't even have half a G at home! Indeed I can only rarely get one signal strength bar up in my home, despite being in a London borough. Our homes are on the lee side of a valley and completely masked from the cellphone masts on the North Downs to our south. One company wanted to install a relay mast a few years ago to give our homes coverage, but one local nutter had a campaign against it on "radiation" grounds and the company backed off. Now no-one's interested since there are so few homes involved.

 

So to conclude as I've said before, if ever I do find something I really want one for, I'll immediately get one. I'm far from technology shy, quite the opposite in fact, as my remote controlled home shows. And yes, I know a smartphone can do that too, but not as well as what I've got now.

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I believe you are missing out Flecc, but I respect your choice even though it astounds me ,

I believe you are missing out Flecc, but I respect your choice even though it astounds me ,

 

And I'm just as surprised. It baffles me how anyone can prefer a circa 5" touch screen to a decent full size screen with proper keyboard and mouse.

 

If I had a need while out I'd have a smartphone, but I just don't have such a need. I see others peering at theirs or tapping while out and about, but that's the last thing on earth I want to do.

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you dont want to listen to horrible tinny shite sound they can blast out walking round then

 

give me 2 fat speakers any day i like bass

you dont want to listen to horrible tinny shite sound they can blast out walking round then

 

Indeed, I use the quality sound on my computer system almost every day, and a mobile of any sort just wouldn't compare.

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my sound card and speakers cost 12k

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk37/necromunger666/DSC_0366.jpg

woof tho if you have a look at usb sound cards like rme ect the sound is so much better than what on board 3-500 quid for a good un tho.

 

http://www.dv247.com/computer-hardware/rme-babyface-pro-usb-audio-interface--218414

Edited June 24, 20169 yr by soundwave

my sound card and speakers cost 12k

 

My computer sound is mainly for speech, i-player radio and the like.

 

For music I have a dedicated hi-fi set up.

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http://bryston.co.uk/

 

thats what you want look at the warranty cant beat that costs mega bucks tho but will never need a new 1 for the rest of ur life

flecc, sounds like you and me have a similar setup / use for PC's, full SSD, on in the morning off at bed time.

I read SMS's on the phone everything else is on the PC a 40" vs 4.5" screen, I know which one I prefer plus mobile internet sites are poor a excuse of the full site.

My phone auto uploads photo's to the cloud and my PC when it comes into WiFi range so again they can be viewed in comfort and on a large screen.

 

Switching between multiple tabs or running multiple windows etc. I honestly cannot see why anyone would preference a phone other than when out of reach of a full PC.

Edited June 25, 20169 yr by Geebee

I read SMS's on the phone everything else is on the PC a 40" vs 4.5" screen, I know which one I prefer plus mobile internet sites are poor a excuse of the full site.

 

Depends who builds them

http://www.douglasbrooksboatbuilding.com/

http://boatbuildercentral.com/

others coming to a screen near you soon!

 

I am a PC man myself but not having access to a PC at work I have a tablet. Mostly for games, learning Spanish and a little light internet browsing. I tried building web pages with it but doesn't work for me.

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P.S. Each two months when I charge it I ring my own home number on the mobile just to keep the PAYG account active, so I had a fiver on it for that purpose............

 

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I've quoted that important piece of Flecc's post because it caught me out when I needed mine in an emergency.

 

I've been on Voda pay as you go for 15 years now because I'm a tight git and my usage can't justify any sort of contract. There can therefore sometimes be very long gaps in my need to make a call.

 

About five years ago my Honda 50 broke down about 12 miles from home on the way to an MOT appointment.

 

I whipped out my Voda mobile and tried to phone the garage and was greeted by the phrase "you have insufficient credit" after dialing the number. I then dialed the balance number which told me I still had £9 in credit, so I was flummoxed. I pushed the bike all the way home (country lanes, no phone boxes) and then rang Voda on my land line.

 

Contrary to those confusing recorded announcements, I found out that my phone had been temporarily "quarantined", because I hadn't made an outgoing call for 6 months.

 

I don't know if the situation has changed now, or if it was only Vodafone, but if anyone keeps a spare "emergency" mobile anywhere, it's worth trying an outgoing call on it, to see if it still works.

Aren't they lovely! You pay for units but if you don't use them you lose them. Nobody has yet taken this to the European consumer protections court (you can't any more of course) but there is something wrong with selling something intangible to someone with a time limit on it...

Contrary to those confusing recorded announcements, I found out that my phone had been temporarily "quarantined", because I hadn't made an outgoing call for 6 months.

 

I don't know if the situation has changed now, or if it was only Vodafone, but if anyone keeps a spare "emergency" mobile anywhere, it's worth trying an outgoing call on it, to see if it still works.

 

Aren't they lovely! You pay for units but if you don't use them you lose them. Nobody has yet taken this to the European consumer protections court (you can't any more of course) but there is something wrong with selling something intangible to someone with a time limit on it...

 

Mine was even worse, it had a 3 month limit to total cancellation and I lost a little money, under £4. I protested about that and claimed it back, but because they'd deleted the registration etc., they had no way of getting back to how much that was, even though I knew.

 

That's why I make a call every two months to keep it alive. In the end I didn't lose out since as reported above in this post, they gave an unconnected donation of £30 later as part of a promotion.

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