I was told and the wife ( not saying where pleading the 5th amendment) years apart on course that the speed limits are the maximum not a target

 

Nice idea, but not strictly true.

 

"Although there is no minimum speed limit on the majority of UK roads, you can still be fined for driving too slow if it is seen that you are a hazard to other road users. There is no specific penalty for driving too slowly and as such, penalties may be as little as a verbal warning by a police officer along with a lecture of the dangers of driving too slow and in more serious cases, a motorist may find themselves in court charged with driving without due care and attention or without reasonable consideration for other road users (penalty code CD30). The more serious penalty CD30 comes with penalty points on a motorists licence, anywhere from 3 to 9 along with a fine. Penalty points stay on a motorists licence for four years from the date of the offence and are likely to seriously impact the cost of car insurance."

 

Where are minimum speed limit signs located

 

Minimum speed limits are put in force to keep traffic moving at a speed that is consistent and smooth. Vehicles that are constantly accelerating and braking are at higher risk of collision. Where minimum speed limits are mandatory are locations that emergency services might struggle to gain access such as tunnels.

 

Things change and the situation now might be different, my understanding was ACPO guidelines (ie not law so can can be ignored when issuing tickets) were "speed limit + 10% + 2mph" so in a 30 limit under 35mph won't shouldn't get a ticket.

 

Information from the RAC website;

 

I have myself received a speed awareness course for 34 in a 30 limit (about 3 years ago). The friend I referred to decided to take the points rather than a course as she couldn't be arsed with another course. This was within the last 3 months.

Welsh authorities have already stated that they will be vigorously applying the new 20 limits.

Yes folks, rural life is about to get a whole lot slower - well so they think. The reality is that all the locals know where the mobile camera's park and when one appears word quickly gets around. Occaisionally an unmarked police car will be seen, but I suspect they are visitors. The few others around are kept busy it seems. So we'll have to see how the policing of these new limits goes. But there does seem to be a zero tolerance intention.

As previously stated, I think they need the funds.

why dont i get fined or chased fkn takes the pi$$ i mostly ride off road on the pavement

Isn't some speed monitoring done by local councils now a days, I see "highways" marked cars and non-police with speed guns also speed camera vans. I hear that once pulled over for 1-4 mph over, it normally rests on driver attitude. Correct me if I am wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Ym9zokSZo:10

Isn't some speed monitoring done by local councils now a days, I see "highways" marked cars and non-police with speed guns also speed camera vans.

 

And groups of private citizens with police approval. Some small villages suffer drivers not slowing from the usual 60 as they pass through creating a dangerous hazard. So the police are happy for them to do monitoring which acts as a deterrent when drivers see them with the radar guns.

 

Normally no prosecutions of course but it's been reported the police do get heavy with cases of exceptional speeds reported with registration number.

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The two mile hill I live on is a magnet for every speed freak for miles - Lambos, Ferraris, weird and noisy turbocharged bangers which bang, superbikes, Sur-ron ron rons, enthusiastic legal cyclists like me, unbelievably heavy lorries which cause mini earthquakes as they hammer into it's many deep poholes at high speed. After speed monitoring vans were deployed, the council were shocked at how fast the traffic is, the locals weren't. I still have the lens of a Mercedes headlight which dented my wooden front door, after it crashed at an intersection on this hill road about 30 yards away, and my front door is about fourty feet away from the pavement! I'm amazed the driver survived after colliding with one of those speed freakoids fancying his chances at beating the lights at the bottom of the hill, then crashing through a brick wall. A friend's Range Rover was hit the same way a few months ago, about a third of a mile further down - total write off and his passenger's ribs were broken. The council have done nothing after their data collection exercises, maybe they're about to go bankrupt. I expect speed cameras would more than pay for themselves within a few hours one weekend evening.

 

What the hell is the point of buying fast vehicles just to save a few seconds and beat everyone else to the next set of traffic lights or jam?

Edited September 18, 20232 yr by guerney

The two mile hill I live on is a magnet for every speed freak for miles - Lambos, Ferraris, weird and noisy turbocharged bangers which bang, superbikes, Sur-ron ron rons, enthusiastic legal cyclists like me, unbelievably heavy lorries which cause mini earthquakes as they hammer into it's many deep poholes at high speed. After speed monitoring vans were deployed, the council were shocked at how fast the traffic is, the locals weren't. I still have the lens of a Mercedes headlight which dented my wooden front door, after it crashed at an intersection on this hill road about 30 yards away, and my front door is about fourty feet away from the pavement! I'm amazed the driver survived after colliding with one of those speed freakoids fancying his chances at beating the lights at the bottom of the hill, then crashing through a brick wall. A friend's Range Rover was hit the same way a few months ago, about a third of a mile further down - total write off and his passenger's ribs were broken. The council have done nothing after their data collection exercises, maybe they're about to go bankrupt. I expect speed cameras would more than pay for themselves within a few hours one weekend evening.

 

What the hell is the point of buying fast vehicles just to save a few seconds and beat everyone else to the next set of traffic lights or jam?

 

The problem you suffer is a severe lack of traffic, enabling the traffic you have to be a major nuisance in so many ways.

 

Where I live and mostly drive I don't have that problem, since the relatively affluent high density population have filled the roads so completely that only polite and helpful cooperation together with strong regulation keeps everything moving sufficiently and safely.

 

This has always been the case everywhere in Britain. For example:

 

In 1960 Britain had just under 5 million cars on the roads and the traffic, mostly cars, killed 6970 people.

 

In 2022 Britain had over 32 million cars on the roads but the traffic only killed 1695 people.

 

One 26th of the deaths pro rata to the number of cars.

 

This clearly illustrates that the answer to traffic problems is either no traffic, which is impossible of course, or so much traffic that being a dangerous nuisance becomes difficult to impossible.

 

So what your area needs is this combination:

 

A 20 mph speed limit on all urban roads other than through roads limited to 30mph.

 

The 30 limit maintained on all roads less than one mile long between urban zones, making 30 mph a norm to drive to.

 

Penalty speed cameras on all 30 mph roads with potentials for occasional higher speeds to be reached.

 

More junctions, traffic lights, pedestrian crossings to help keep overall speeds down.

 

Closing enough road space to motor traffic to increase the traffic density until it slows sufficiently overall.

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Edited September 18, 20232 yr by flecc

Isn't some speed monitoring done by local councils now a days, I see "highways" marked cars and non-police with speed guns also speed camera vans.

 

And some community groups too.

 

There was an issue with people driving too fast through the village of Ambridge in the Midlands, documented on the radio in the Archers;

 

https://ambridgeobserver.blogspot.com/2017/05/an-accident-break-up-and-uneaten-pizza.html

 

"Brian Aldridge, his wife Jennifer, daughter Kate and sister-in-law Lilian have all volunteered to join the Speedwatch team that will monitor the appalling level of dangerous driving that is currently afflicting the village."

The problem you suffer is a severe lack of traffic, enabling the traffic you have to be a major nuisance in so many ways.

 

I won't count the ways, because you're well aware of them and it'd take too long thumping it all out on my newly airblasted clean keyboard - disgusting and smelly rotted dead skin from my zombie fingers would only fill it up again, impeding it's noise-free function. Frustrating gridlock out there at certain hours of the day - I suppose all that thundering about at high speeds at night must be some form of self-administered catharsis.

 

Here's the Mercedes lens which dented my wooden door. It does a great job of widening beams and it's heat-resistant, so I had a mind to use this as a diffuser for my rear red 1800LM flasher. Trouble is, it's a heavy lump of glass. Using this as a paperweight on my desk in bright daylight could start a fire. Sadly this lens isn't clear enough for photography use, but must surely be good for something.

 

 

 

 

 

I may yet superglue + baking soda the lens over this, for a wider beam. Or I could stick on a grid plastic diffuser, or both.

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: I've just now discovered this Mercedes lens fits inside the largest and brightest of the three headlights I have on my handlebar! The lens flange is a bit too thick - the headlight's lens ring isn't held on by much thread, but I'm sure I can make this secure and waterproof. The option is there to replace my "1800LM" red flasher with this "2400LM"...

 

 

 

 

 

I can't buy from the same AliExpress seller I bought this middle headlight from - I've terminally pissed him and AliExpress off by opening a Paypal case, because of it's inability to operate at 36V lol. Works fine at 18V.

 

 

 

 

 

...or I could buy the same headlight from the same AliExpress seller again, but now that I have a variable power supply, this time I could record the video evidence AliExpress insist upon and get a refund. The seller would have a fit

Edited September 19, 20232 yr by guerney

 

Of course.

 

Diplomatic Protection Officers all carry revolvers and the Foreign Embassies, Commissions and Legations are in London, plus the homes of many of their native senior officials.

 

In consequence there are large numbers of revolver armed protection officers on duty 24 hours a day. The uniformed ones wear their revolvers holstered on their belts, I used to see them regularly in Central London.

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That chart might be a bit out of date:

https://www.dw.com/en/uk-army-put-on-standby-as-london-police-hand-in-weapons/a-66911726

wont be long now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYsulVXpgYg:21

 

 

you fight fire with more fire power section 1 firearms license required and 10k for the gun

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_nYBVst0GE:168

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67335868

Of course.

 

Diplomatic Protection Officers all carry revolvers and the Foreign Embassies, Commissions and Legations are in London, plus the homes of many of their native senior officials.

 

In consequence there are large numbers of revolver armed protection officers on duty 24 hours a day. The uniformed ones wear their revolvers holstered on their belts, I used to see them regularly in Central London.

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I do hope they have automatics, browning high powers, revolvers are so last century old chap.

I do hope they have automatics, browning high powers, revolvers are so last century old chap.

 

Yes, using the term revolver loosely for any single handed firearm. Should have been pistol of course, but we in Britain are unfamiliar with such discussion since we don't roam around armed in the way many Americans do.

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Cardiff police seize 17 illegal e-bikes in crackdown on riding in pedestrianised areas GOOD

 

https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/news/cardiff-police-seize-17-illegal-e-bikes-in-crackdown-on-riding-in-pedestrianised-areas

Having done 6 speed awareness courses* over about 20 years I can answer the "How do I drive at 20?" Conundrum. I tried it in North Welsh Wales a couple of weeks ago. I was told 3rd for 30, so tried 2nd for 20 and it works.

 

*I collected enough left over free pens after each course to last until the next one!

Having done 6 speed awareness courses* over about 20 years I can answer the "How do I drive at 20?" Conundrum. I tried it in North Welsh Wales a couple of weeks ago. I was told 3rd for 30, so tried 2nd for 20 and it works.

 

*I collected enough left over free pens after each course to last until the next one!

 

 

I would not be too ashamed to boast about that :mad::mad:

Just back from a trip to North Wales, accompanied by my bike, making use of a lift in the back of a van and two fairly long bike-on-train legs.

 

Since last autumn's trip, Glasgow has introduced a LEZ and Wales the 20 mph limits.

 

From my visiting cyclist perspective, very much nicer to ride in the changed areas. Much quieter in central Glasgow, and when I'm doing 12 to 18 mph ( tailwind), 20 mph traffic just has so much less threat.

I would not be too ashamed to boast about that :mad::mad:

That's a confusing reply, telling me you wouldn't be ashamed then angry faces????? If you are playing Peter Perfect you need to get it right. So who here hasn't hit 36mph in a 30 a few times over 20 years?

 

The first course was on in a trial being run in Lancashire, over a full day with lunch. Theory in the morning then a trip out with a driving instructor, 2 of us with each instructor. They soon cut the lunch and a trip out, all theory now.