Well done Lloyd and Simon it is good to see that 50 Cycles has recovered a stolen bike on behalf of a customer irrespective of the circumstances.

Wouldn't it be nice to know the locations where stolen bikes are recovered from? Perhaps all that is required is a map similar to this http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/electric-bicycles/1573-where-do-you-live-v2-0-a.html?highlight=live ?

but with full details and exact locations given.

well done 50cycles,they could have just sent the charger out with no questions asked.They didn't so it makes it reassuring to know if it happens to any of us there is a chance our pride and joy can be recovered...also its as well if we sell our kalkhoffs we could let them know so that they can change the details...If they where to make a small charge to new owners,Say £5 when bikes were sold on it would help the cause.....in my opinion

well done to 50cycles but as others have said, this person needs to be prosecuted. Having been a victim of a robbery, I can't stand it when these scum get off (even though they lost £125).

 

If the police couldn't be bothered then it's a testament to their under resourcing and them being more interested in speed cameras etc.

 

Surely this can be followed up

Well done 50-Cycles !!!

We agree with the posters who say the police simply wouldn't have bothered, and even if it had all gone thru' due process the magistrates would have just given the scumbag a slap on the wrists so he could go and get his next Giro and nick another bike!

 

There lies the problem. We all have time to post on the internet, but not the time to assist the police do their job. I have only positive experiences, including a detection and conviction for a random gratuitous assault last year. This is because I stood up and did something about it, not bleated about popular conception.

Thats customer service for you !

 

Would have been nice if the culprit had been prosecuted.

 

Hopefully if we get our cycle to work scheme from I work I will definatly be testing the Kalkhoff bikes and buy one.

 

Would 50 cycles be offering a free cycle recovery for stolen bikes

... not bleated about popular conception.

 

What does this mean???

What does this mean???

 

spelling mistake? probably meant perception? no need to get anxious....:-)

Misconception?

By chance this was delivered to my inbox https://www.immobilise.com/view.php?stage=product&category=1&product=2 the question is do you think if you tagged your bike the police would take any more interest?Would it make it easier for them I wonder?

By chance this was delivered to my inbox https://www.immobilise.com/view.php?stage=product&category=1&product=2 the question is do you think if you tagged your bike the police would take any more interest?Would it make it easier for them I wonder?

 

Will they have the scanner available and know how to use it?

GT3 does have a point, but the wider issue is that a lot of people have double standards about crime, they want the cops to arrest people doing things they disagree with but leave them alone if they are driving at 50 in a 30 zone or cycling on the pavement or nicking items from work or smoking a joint...

 

or if they are "law abiding" they harbour fantasies of setting themselves up as vigilantes to "clean up the streets" of hoodies/foreigners/whoever they happen to dislike.

 

ironically whilst I was initially listening to the radio scanner for the "wrong reasons" it taught me a lot about what cops have to deal with day to day and I ended up with more respect for them than I had as a teenage raver and occasional recreational drug user!

 

I certainly don't always see eye to eye with everything cops do - but I think a lot of them try and do their best with limited resources and conflicting demands and they have moved on a bit from the "Life on Mars" days, its just that society seem incapable of self-regulating sometimes..

 

I think some constabularies do have the device to scan the chips - bear in mind also a fair few coppers like nice racing bikes

 

When riding to friends in Maidenhead, I once saw a chap what looked like a sarge or inspector on a racing bike going up Knowl Hill with a Thames Valley royal protection patrol (black vehicle but with battenburgs/blue lights) behind him acting as a "support vehicle" the day before Charles and Camilla were due to visit Windsor castle.

 

I expect they must have had to test the car anyway and this copper decided to get some exercise as well - I thought it was a good thing (he was getting up the hill at an impressive pace..) that he was trying to keep fit instead of sitting on his behind in the car..

Edited December 12, 200916 yr by Alex728

Kalkhoff Agattu Electric Bike 49cm frame on eBay (end time 19-Dec-09 16:29:13 GMT)

Kalkhoff Agattu Electric Bike 49cm frame on eBay (end time 19-Dec-09 16:29:13 GMT)

 

Hi Tim, That is the customers ad for the bike we returned

Hi Tim, That is the customers ad for the bike we returned

 

I'm sure Tim knows, hence the "smiley" wink he added.

 

At £850 it's a "steal".

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I'm still hanging around the forum despite being without an electric bike.

 

I have daily hands on and supervisory experience of policing stretching from the mid 80's to the present which includes some unique specialism and the basics of throwing offensive drunks into the cells at weekends.

 

I really don't want to sound rude (it's difficult not to in this case) but in general the public have no idea at all what the Police do although they thinks they know what is done as a result of increased but largely inaccurate coverage in the media.

 

The Police have no voice, no union and no recourse, they are made up of a cross section of society with the good, bad and ugly which that brings, they are Lions Led By Donkeys.

 

I've found the best way to sum it up is with the below analogy. I would urge you to adapt and overlay onto your own employment or business to get an idea of the position the Police find themselves currently as a result of total and utter control by Government.

 

'If all calls to the Police stopped tomorrow, for one year, then there is already enough work ongoing for that year to keep everyone fully occupied'

 

Just think about that, it really is that simple, the UK populous provided the current government and they provided the current UK Police Service, without a revolution or a change of government nothing will change.

 

the position the Police find themselves currently as a result of total and utter control by Government.

 

without a revolution or a change of government nothing will change.

 

I think you'll find that many are already aware of this, I certainly am and I'm not holding my breath for any change to arrive.

 

Of course this simply doesn't suit the population at large and the police are condemned to just carry on with their thankless task, probably frustrated at the impossibilities inherent in that.

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Sweeping generalisations on TV and in the press etc are condemned for some groups. For others the snipers are out in force.

Well done Holmes and Watson, I mean Lloyd and Simon, maybe youre in the wrong careers!!

 

John

Well, I say good luck to 50 cycles. Must have been a good feeling to leave with that bike and even better to hand it back to the owner.

 

As far as the police go, I live well out in the sticks and each officer has quite a wide area to look after and in my own experience I have in general nothing but praise for them. Yes of course you get good and bad in all walks of life but one thing for sure is that they have a hell of a lot on their plate at any given time.

In general, the kind of people that frequent a forum like this one are more or less pretty law abiding (maybe the odd misdemeanour) I know a couple of police officers enough to have a cuppa with and pass the time of day and most people have no idea just what they have to put up with most working days only what they read in the press or on the news. They tend to be dammed if they do or dammed if they don`t.

One thing for sure is that without them we might all be sitting behind locked doors with shotguns in our hands. Most times it`s some of the stupid laws that they have to enforce that makes them look bad.

Couldnt agree more, but I have personal experience both good and bad. A friend car was broken into, and he found out who was trying to sell the in-car dvd system in the local pub from his numerous friends, told the local police where this person lived - nothing.

 

I had a group of about 5 teenagers throwing snow and compacted iceballs at my wife as she returned from work last year, I remonstrated with them, and they proceeded to continue to pelt the house (my 3yr old was in bed, and upset by the noise against the windows). I just wanted a drive past by them but the police were too busy, I ended up in and out of the house over and over, with half a dozen teenagers throwing snow and ice-balls for about 3 hours (scared in-case it turned into a stone through the little boys window).

 

I know the police are trying and under pressure, but sometimes it would only take a little effort. I understand the 'private security' some are paying for, I think I would too if it were available.

 

I would be over the moon with the result that Lloyd and Simon achieved, regardless of the consequences for the burgular. If they would have done nothing (like 90% of other retailers) then nothing would have been recovered.

Couldnt agree more, but I have personal experience both good and bad. ...

 

 

...I know the police are trying and under pressure, but sometimes it would only take a little effort. I understand the 'private security' some are paying for, I think I would too if it were available.

 

I would be over the moon with the result that Lloyd and Simon achieved, regardless of the consequences for the burgular. If they would have done nothing (like 90% of other retailers) then nothing would have been recovered.

 

good comment,

 

excellent work from the Lads at 50 Cycles, well done chaps. wish there were a few more retailers with their clients' interests at heart.

 

the Boyz'n'Galz in blue really are just too busy dealing with the more critical issues, rapes/assaults/accidents/fires etc, take your pick, then add the onerous paperwork reporting these incidents, then add the statistical 'targetting' of resources to meet the requirements of our 'political masters' and you run out of budgeted man-hours before the lesser evils in life can be investigated.

 

In this New World reality, folks may have to get used to doing more for themselves, helping out other folk where they can, doing a bit more 'good' around the place instead of relying on the authorities (whose job it may well be) and instead of bitching, just get on 'with it'. This bike theft/recovery is a good example, had it been done 'by the book' quite probably nothing would have happened due to lack of resources, as it is, the bike is recovered. OK the 'perp' may go free this time, but his own behaviour will eventually catch him up.

 

my two cents

 

This bike theft/recovery is a good example, had it been done 'by the book' quite probably nothing would have happened due to lack of resources, as it is, the bike is recovered. OK the 'perp' may go free this time,

 

At least the experience will almost certainly put him off stealing an e-bike again, now he realises that they can be rare enough to be identifiable in this way through the need of a specific charger.

 

So that one form of crime by an individual has almost certainly been prevented in future.

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At least the experience will almost certainly put him off stealing an e-bike again, now he realises that they can be rare enough to be identifiable in this way through the need of a specific charger.

 

So that one form of crime by an individual has almost certainly been prevented in future.

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...and personally I would always take the battery in with me if left for longer than a few minutes. It makes it just that little more unattractive to thieves. Doesn't really work on the cytronex unfortunately.

Kalkhoff Agattu Electric Bike 49cm frame on eBay (end time 19-Dec-09 16:29:13 GMT)

 

The bike still hasn't sold despite the low starting bid:

 

Kalkhoff Agattu Electric Bike 49cm frame on eBay (end time 26-Dec-09 16:44:33 GMT)