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It is not cheating as d8veh has a 250w label cunningly placed on his rear bumper

There are plenty of idiots about everyday, its the blatent ......let's wind up the population or what can we rant on about phone ins and etc on a national level that wind me up.

Hi Motoroaming, The handlebars DO twist around out of the way...see the Video attached.... Just so you know the Pony is on order, and will be in the shop within 3-4 weeks if anyone wishes to view one.Edit* comes with proper mudguards as standard.

Bought a Woosh big bear a couple of weeks ago and absolutely love it. It pulls like a train and I am always grinning when I get off of it. Has reopened the world of cycling to me. Also I was very impressed with the service from Woosh.

And only a 12 volt battery!

hello, Guys been a long time since I posted on this forum been using my bike for over 8 months need help choosing new tyres due to the wear on my one now well over 1000miles here is my bike. (Have no clue what tyres I should be purchasing I don't mind on the price at all just something last me another 1000miles I be happy) http://cyclotricity.com/revolver-electric-cycle/ http://www.evanscycles.com/categories/components/tyres/f/26-inch#! 26 inch tyres

Sorry Motoroaming, but I won't be getting any other variant of 20" in for a while as I have 4 other styles of folder/compact available currently. http://www.onbike.co.uk/electric-bikes-category/folding-electric-bikes/

Hi all, I've had an enjoyable few hours reading all the off road posts some really interesting posts and excellent photos.. After considering an eBike for some time I still could not make my mind up then saw and read the reviews on the Haibike sduro allmtn rc and my mind was made up. Ordered the bike from J. E. James in Rotherham as they were my nearest dealer (Good service and really nice staff) This bike is the best thing I have ever bought I use it mainly off road battery life is amazing and just can't stop smiling as it powers me up the hills. So far I have covered around 200 miles and as an indication of battery life one run was 24.8 miles with 1780ft of ascent and used just over 50%. Will keep you all posted on mine and the bikes progress. Ed. In North Leeds, West Yorkshire

Blimey do they not have bigger issues to troll about, the BBC is really starting to annoy me!, almost to the point .....oh never mind......stay calm.

I am in love, that looks right up my street!! Thanks Scott Your a star mate.

For around the grand mark they will be chinese yes but try this one this may do it.......http://cyclotricity.com/stealth-1000w/ These are assembled here in UK and I think they make the motor here too not 100% sure on that though

Another update on this for anyone who may be interested. Well, my 2014 Giant Prime went back to JE James (who in turn I believe returned the bike to Giant to look at). The whole warranty process was incredibly messy, and essentially took a month. The Giant store in Bristol boxed the bike, but did so with the key left in the battery. On arrival at JE James, that key was badly bent. They also lost the second key I'd provided. JE James weren't happy about this, which further complicated things for a day or so. Anyway, the end result is that I've been provided with a completely new Giant Prime. The one I've been given is the Giant Prime E+ 2 2015 model, which has disc brakes and several other tweaks over the 2014 model. The horrible plastic contraption covering the whole chain/gears etc. isn't on this one. There's no Abus chipSecurity device. The mudguards are made of tougher material and no longer flap around. The wiring looks more secure. The gearshift is much more reliable. I am no longer experiencing ANY rattle with this model. It seems better put together, and better designed. It looks as though the design update specifically addresses the issues I'd been experiencing (other than the motor cutting out, obviously). Also, not sure if it's just me but the motor seems somewhat more responsive than the 2014. Not sure whether this is just placebo as I don't have the two to compare. Think the Yamaha motor is the same but there may have been tweaks here? Anyway, I'm only 2 days into owning the 2015 Prime but SO FAR, I absolutely adore it. It's a fantastic ride, and is everything I'd hoped my original purchase should have been. Providing the 2015 Prime remains reliable, I'd have no hesitation in recommending it. Fingers crossed.

Or if speed and arriving unflustered is your main aim buy a petrol moped.

you can go as fast as you like downhill !

To do 15mph+ uphill you will need an illegal or derestricted bike. The Granite would be a waste of time because you would be trying to propel a 20kg+ bike unassisted uphill - you would be better off with an ordinary push bike which would be much lighter.

for high speed commuting on that sort of distance, the woosh Zephyr-B is pretty good. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?zephyr-b for high speed on very hilly roads, the woosh Krieger is better. After that, you'll have to convert your bike with a BBS02 36V 500W.

Near to useless front mudguards are common enough on bikes, but that on this AVE MH model must be one of the worst ever. Cleverly designed to spray muck all over the riders feet, the motor unit and lower frame, it achieves virtually nothing: http://test.ave-bikes.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/mh7le_480px.jpg

The LE has a lower stepped frame compared to the standard MH-7. The MH-9HD has the NuVinci gearing system (it is actually a CVT which means continuously variable transmission i.e. no stepped gear changes). It also has a front carrier rack. There is more information here http://www.ebco-ebikes.co.uk/products-page/ave/ The MH-11 has the NuVinci Harmony system where you can set the bike to mantain a specific cadence level which it will maintain within the 360% gear ratio. It has a manual setting as well, more information below. http://www.fallbrooktech.com/cycling/harmony The MH-9 is essentially the same as the MH-9HD but without the front carrier. If you click on the link below and then each bike the specification is clear even if you do not speak German (i.e. the specification is in English) http://www.ave-bikes.de/mh-mobility-serie/ Hope this helps Dave

The MH-7, MH-7 LE and MH-9 HD are all due to arrive in the UK in the next few weeks. Other models are available to order. Hope this helps. DW.

Does not matter if you are dealing with a dealer or distrubuter it is about the service you recieve. For example we have loaned customers of ours a loan bike if there has been a problem. We also keep back up spares in stock for Bosch bikes for our customers, like alot of dealers do. Problems are rare but worth asking what the process is if a problem occurs. Current delivery for Pony is week 24 i.e. w/c 8 June. Ave MH-7 is good but probably best to wait for the new model which is due in a few weeks. Good luck with the search Dave

Some people may consider that "cheating" !!

Reading the bumf of your choices the Kalkoff seems the winner. But when I was testing bikes I never took the them, I was expecting something to grab me and say buy, but they just seemed ordinary. I have ridden RobF's MH-7 on part of my usual round trip and was taken with it. I missed the suspension I enjoy on the Delite and looked for a similar bike from R&M although it would be dearer but OnBike had the Birdy on sale and I had that instead. The quality you get with R&M is worth the extra, I get a greater feeling of worth with their bikes than any other I have tried. As always, you do need to try them, if only one bike was right, there would be no others to try. Good luck & I hope you choose wisely.

Aye, but how far do you ride it on one charge?

Good Grief! I just ride me bike:D

Hi folks, I'm going to lock this thread now. The OP obviously came on just to rile a few feathers. Unfortunately, looking through our server logs they were a little careless in choosing the location they posted from !

And it appears to have been designed by a USA based team. Car manufacturers' bikes and e-bikes have almost invariably been designed and built by outside companies. The one in-house exception has been Peugeot who have been a bicycle manufacturer since 1882, and have the most successful cycle racing team of all time with Tour de France wins among their successes. .

tricky point this is. The key issue as I see with bike shops is their high running costs. They will inevitably push customers to buy more expensive products towards the maximum amount the customers can afford because the same sale will bring in a bigger profit. Internet sales do not exert the same selling pressure on their customers. if anything, this £995 Ansmann FT-15 goes to show that you can spend more than £1,000 on an e-bike if you like but don't have to. Bikes costing less than £1,000 can have quality parts, good finish, excellent guarantee and support. http://www.cyclezee.com/uploads/2/8/6/0/2860781/6755239.jpg?568

Whilst I don't disagree with folk who say that the front brake does the hard stopping, I also feel that balanced braking is better with appropriate use of the rear brake, particularly when on loose or slippy surfaces or if you are forced to brake on a bend. The rear brake does have some stopping power and allows you to brake more gently with the front. There are many situations where only using the front brake can see you over the handlebars and if you are ever going to lock a wheel you don't want it to be the front one. This is quite a good read, http://www.mtbtechniques.co.uk/fundamentalsbraking.html although it's directed mainly at off road use it explains braking techniques quite well. Dave.

As flecc says, when you brake most of your weight and the weight of the bike goes to the front wheel. Thus the back wheel is in very light contact with the road and will only support limited braking before it skids. The front, on t'other hand, is pushed into firm contact with the road, so the tyre will support strong braking before it skids.

As I said disk on front normal on rear. Rims don't ware out for a long time

front + white cylinder black right hand lever Clarke Exoskeletal: £21. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/clarks-exo-skeletal-hydraulic-disc-brake/rp-prod80605

Giant Review Update So, I have had the Giant for ten weeks now and covered just short of 1200 miles for both commuting and leisure/shopping rides. The commute to work is getting easier, my fitness levels have improved far more than I ever envisaged and my median time for getting to and from work is around 1 hour 50 mins for the 28.67 miles, best time 1 hour 39 mins. On a good run with no wind I can do the commute without taking even a third of the battery life away, a nasty headwind however, I'm lucky to get home on one battery. I have now lost a total of 9Kg of weight in the 10 weeks! 96kg down to 87kg. The bike has had its first (complimentary) service done at Fulford Cycles a week or so ago. Two reasons I took the bike in before the recommended 3 month period, firstly because the bikes brake and gear cabling was a bit slack so Chris tightened everything up and also because I had a nasty fall from the Giant turning a corner near to a construction site on my way to work. Admittedly I was riding rather fast, and put the bike into the tarmac sliding on a nasty spill of diesel/oil on the road. I crashed to the road and when I cursed my way up off the tarmac with bleeding knees, elbows and face, a broken little finger, an extremely painful shoulder and a massive bruise on my right thigh where the handlebar dug its way into my body, I found the Giant had only grazed its SPD pedal and one handle grip but the handlebar itself was loose, Chris soon put this right with the torque wrench and after 4 days off cycling to recover, I was back to full fitness again. I have had one puncture so far over the course of the 1177 miles I have covered on the Giant, (fortunately on a ride around the North York Moors and not on my commute!), specifically, hurtling down a hill into Brandsdale I shot over a cattle grid and heard the painful hiss from the back tyre, I soon got this fixed as I always carry tools, tyre levers and spare inner-tube. To be honest, I think I had far too much air pressure in the rear tyre as the inner-tube looked torn and I couldn't find anything foreign or sharp that had penetrated the Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyre. So, the cost of ownership for the Giant has only risen by around £60 since the initial outlay for the bike 10 weeks ago, this was for SPD Pedals and shoes and a nice comfy seat and of course the obvious depreciation of the bike, the cost of charging the batteries and their mounting cycle tally. I've taken to throwing 50p into a pot each time I charge, to cover the cost of replacements when the time comes, far cheaper than the £10 or so a day it was costing in diesel to work and back. The Shimano SPD pedals are worth their weight in gold, I wouldn't be without them and couldn't go back to flat pedals, the difference is amazing in terms of pure power, enjoyment in riding the bike and confidence at speed. Overall I continue to be enthusiastic about the Giant Twist Freedom, It has benefited me physically, mentally and has been the catalyst in me into taking up 'proper' cycling as a hobby, three weeks ago buying a second hand Audax/Touring bike that I am enjoying so much for trips out on an evening and Sundays. I intend to get into some of the long distance Audax events later this year. Recently, to check out my fitness, I rode a Time Trial 10 mile course on the Touring bike and completed the 10 miles in 30 mins 17 secs, this has boosted my confidence and spurred me on to develop my fitness further. If anyone still has any doubts about getting a Pedelec, I hope my experiences so far of the Giant might go a little way to inspire confidence in taking the plunge, it might change your life, it has mine.