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Hi, background about my Yose kit. About 1,500 kms on bike1, downtube battery fitted on the rear rack and hidden behind panniers https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/yose-350-rear-hub-kit-onto-spanish-mtb-by-mondraker.37899/ Kit was then stripped off, converted from Lisui controller to KT, the 26" motor dismantled and rebuilt into a 29" rim (which I feel reduced the torque noticiabley !) and transplanted onto bike2. It was my only transport for over a year so I'm guessing same mileage or more on this bike. https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/yose-350-rear-hub-kit-transplanted-onto-scott.40186/ If I was buying again, I like Yose but not their Lisui controllers, their price has gone up (I think all suppliers have), 48v seems to be common now so I'd try that, and I'd pick a motor with more torque / built for 29" rim (not take a medium torque motor and transplant it from 26" to 29")

Sounds good. Approximately how many miles in total has your battery done? I'm now thinking I should let my battery cool before recharging - the only time I could feel it hot enough to be felt on the casing, is when it was running extremely low. I usually avoid depleting to low voltage cutoff, but sometimes it can't be helped, and occasionally it's wise to do so for calibration and subsequently more accurate balancing (or so I've read). I would probably try a Yose battery, save for their battery mount which is incompatible with my existing battery case. I suppose I could rehouse the Yose battery pack into a compatible battery case, which of course adds to the cost. In theory minimal soldering would be required. Depends on whether the pack's volume can be accommodated. It's either that or quick release bolts to swap over the mounts plus batteries when needed, disconnecting/connecting with Anderson connectors. I've just seen a Youtube video about flood soldering of the connectors, which looks easy (when they do it).

I bought a Yose kit with 36v battery about 2 years ago, soon upgraded the controller and set the current as high as possible before the battery / controller cut out (thermal overload?) From memory I got cutouts when set at 18A, it's been set at 17A ever since and often used at max assist levels so the battery is worked hard. I'm careful to charge it a long time before I go out (the night before), and leave it a few hours after a ride before connecting the charger (to cool down). For the first 18 months I had no car so the bike was my daily transport, for everything from commuting to shopping with panniers. Battery is still strong and I'd happily buy another - but maybe in 48V next time.

I recently bought a Yose no name cell silverfish battery that is working very well. I bought the bigger 36v15ah one for £165.62 delivered in March 2022 including charger. I previously bought a similar Yose silverfish battery that is over four yeras old and still working well. The price was obviously a big factor, but Yose batteries seem to be built to an acceptable level, or so I have found.

Hi David, no I haven't. I thought I'd put it on the forum first to see if anyone else might have had a similar issue. I shall call them tomorrow. Thanks

My suspicion is that Hunt has that in his back pocket, but dare not mention its name. You cannot effect change without being elected, and this is a very elite electorate. The only advantage he has going for himself is that he is not tarred with the Boris brush.

thanks woosh,ive given up on the idea,way too complicated and more expensive for those spot welders than i imagined thought they were less than 50 quid ones ive seen for battery packs. was quoted 400 quid for a repair a year ago by a local battery center. cld buy a new one for that tho.

The main cost-cutting on that bike (as on many cheap ebikes) is the battery. Take the advertised range with a pinch of salt; that will probably be on flat well-tarmacked roads on the lowest assist level. Even the 25km range they suggests is around 15 miles, which is well short of the 30 miles you were hoping for. They don't specify battery size, but guessing from the charging time probably 6 to 7ah, around 200-300wh. Also unless your commute is very flat you'll probably find the lack of gears quite limiting. Small battery and lack of gears do keep the weight down. It it is quite flat you'll probably do better with a better quality non-electric bike. Evans gets quite a mixed press; over 40% lowest rating on Trust Pilot.

My battery yields about 43 miles at very high assistance, or a couple of miles more using slightly less amps. My legs have grown to the size of tree trunks since I got the battery a couple of thousand miles ago (not really, they're now less thin twigs), therefore I might manage with a lower PAS level for longer range. In a year or several, you'll be glad when 80% of your 20ah battery capacity still equates to a useful number of miles, as capacity diminishes with recharges.

An enlightening interview with a young sunak https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/10/rishi-sunak-says-he-has-no-working-class-friends-in-unearthed-clip-16975591/

People will have to adapt unfortunately. Central heating is relatively new, people may have to heat their homes differently or even heat themselves directly, more clothes or even clothes with heat pads using low power battery packs. At least heating yourself directly means you are warm in any environment, doing the garden or working in the shed etc. Many will go back to open fires perhaps as a necessity. I think the real problem will be people get angry when their living standards reduce and we could face riots and other damaging events. They won't reason that they have caused the damage to the economy themselves they will look for someone else to blame. Admittedly if you look at who has done the most damage to the economy it is the middle classes who typically import the most cars and have the most holidays and send a huge part of their wages outside the country which has led to huge problems but of course there are many other factors including the EU, the pandemic and now this Ukraine/Russian war. For some reason despite our huge debts and horrific financial position Boris was very generous sending help to Ukraine. Yes morally right to do on one level but perhaps not morally right from the viewpoint of our own debt level. A good viewpoint of where we are is the NIIP rating (net international investment position) it shows the nations overall assets vs liabilities and its pretty grim reading from a UK perspective. Other moronic governments are the french and spanish who seem to be equally cursed with incompetent politicians and a horrible selfish population happy to destroy their own economies. I think its one of those things where until people hit rock bottom they won't come to their senses. So many people are so politicised that its almost like taking the side of a football team rather than the rational process of discussing problems and their solutions.

I think the candidates will reveal what else we did not know. Already they all confirmed that the increase in national insurance was a mistake. Did BJ push for it? or others will blame Sunak for it?

Those Panasonic/Sanyo NCR18650BL cells have comparatively low discharge cycle life - it seems to be, that you can either have high current discharge capability or long discharge cycle life, but you can't have both. If Yose battery packs have good lifespan, I expect (not knowing much about ebike batteries) that they're not being thrashed to an early grave/landfill by being made to discharge at high amps, and that they're larger capacity packs, so that individual cells are not overly stressed. https://budgetlightforum.com/node/39058

I bought a Woosh Big Bear with no keys & posted a thread here https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/lost-keys-what-can-be-done.38980/ As suggested I bought a set of juggler keys for £14.95 & unlocked it within 30 seconds. I then dismantled the lock & removed the tumblers so that could open it with any key.

Thanks for tips of keeping front deraullier! I guess I keep it in a fixed position and detach the wire. Ok. If I need to replace the chain I will take the bike to a bike shop and replace cassette at the same time. Maybe might be a good idea anyway because its quite worn before I start mounting the motor. Thanks for advice!

There's not much sign of poverty round here. People are still tossing new cars onto their drives and the kids are all riding around on £2,000 mtb's Extensions are appearing on houses and money is being spent on driveways, kitchens, motor homes etc The streets are crammed with cars, if anything more than ever, clearly £2 per litre isn't having much effect. We were lucky to buy into this area when houses were £80,000 Now there's an 18 month waiting list for a new Land Rover that costs as much as that. A lot of it seems to be inheritance, most of my friends have had large sums biffed into their accounts after various family members passed away. One friend had two houses thrown at him, another just trousered £140,000. Another gets more in family wealth handout every Christmas than l earn in a year. l guess it's good, if it happens to you. Sadly not here, my dad left me £5,000 but l never got it because my stepmother "needed it to decorate the house before it was sold" l bet people in the third world think the streets are literally paved with gold here, £180,000,000 lottery prizes, people paying £20,000,000 for an old car, half a billion for a football club? l wonder if they know how much the bicycle frames they assemble sell for here, £12,000 for a high end mountain bike, it must seem like a dream world.

so he has pushy Asian parents and they succeeded. Every other candidate promises big and permanent tax cuts, especially CT, and from day one. What is the logic in that when inflation runs at 10%? I watched Sajid Javid and Hunt on BBC1 yesterday. There is hardly any difference between them on policies: keep Rwanda program, make brexit work (without mentioning the EU) by deregulation. Basically, turn this country into the paradise for cowboys. Sunak has at least keeps his mounth shut. It's better than his competitors.

Aye the haves and have nots, the divide will deepen. As for the middle class spending a tad too much on imports is a tad finger pointy imo if people wish to be angry that's fair, but this "blame assigning" & "in fighting", poor against middle class to name a one without causing to much contention, really needs to be prevented at all cost. If anyone wants to blame someone a good place to start would be Jerome Powell or the western Oligarchs.

Indeed, Sunak is my choice out of the present bunch. His hard working parents gave him the opportunity, he seized it and made a huge success of that opportunity. A go-getter. That's a pretty good formula for someone wishing to lead a country. .

So a 19 year old wealthy lad does not have a great idea of how the world works?. Thats news?. Now 20 years ago the point he was making was someone with his skin colour could go far. Paki bashing was a spectator sport. 20 years ago , woman's football was a joke .. eg" Bend it like Beckham", , there were plenty of jokes about making a solar powered torch ..all stuff like that.

I wonder if any of the candidates dares to mention the EU. Yet, that's a pretty low hanging fruit. We only have to mend the fences with the EU and we'll encourage much more foreign inward investment than cutting CT. Present bunch of candidates believe in fairies, foreigners keep pouring their cash into our treasury bonds forever.

l'm not sure what "middle class" means these days. lf it's to do with wealth, many will have become "middle class" because of the massive rise in house prices !!