..... and perfect timing. Spotted a whole fleet of Police out in Manchester this morning. At least 15 offices, probably more. Working on Deansgate in the city centre. Stopping cyclists for all sorts of things, and checking bikes. I went for a chat with them about a few things and we did talk eBikes for a bit.

 

..... and perfect timing. Spotted a whole fleet of Police out in Manchester this morning. At least 15 offices, probably more. Working on Deansgate in the city centre. Stopping cyclists for all sorts of things, and checking bikes. I went for a chat with them about a few things and we did talk eBikes for a bit.

 

Is that what we've come down to- cycling proficiency Police?? Hope they warned him about that saddle.

..... and perfect timing. Spotted a whole fleet of Police out in Manchester this morning. At least 15 offices, probably more. Working on Deansgate in the city centre. Stopping cyclists for all sorts of things, and checking bikes. I went for a chat with them about a few things and we did talk eBikes for a bit.

 

Ride your bike like you have stolen it. That way they will pay no attention to you at all.

I cant believe all this thread about whether a bike is capable of 17 mph or 28 mph.

What about all these lycra clad cyclists on road bikes who regularly pass me doing at least 25-30 mph on the straight or down hill.

I guess the police in the picture are not interested in the capable speed of the bike just whether they are safe or not, brakes, lights,tyres etc.

Thankfully my BH bike which is capable of at least 28mph looks like a normal road bike ,no exposed battery or mid drive motor. :-)

What about all these lycra clad cyclists on road bikes who regularly pass me doing at least 25-30 mph on the straight or down hill.

 

What about them? Perfectly legal and you can join them if you wish. If you can't pedal that fast under your own effort, nature will dictate the correct speed for you

As usual, it's all about an Easy Knick.

 

Dangerous driving (OR cycling) is far harder to prove than having a defective brake-light (or a 500w motor).

 

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I cant believe all this thread about whether a bike is capable of 17 mph or 28 mph.

What about all these lycra clad cyclists on road bikes who regularly pass me doing at least 25-30 mph on the straight or down hill.

I guess the police in the picture are not interested in the capable speed of the bike just whether they are safe or not, brakes, lights,tyres etc.

Thankfully my BH bike which is capable of at least 28mph looks like a normal road bike ,no exposed battery or mid drive motor.

 

I actually agree with you,it's a shame that this forum always seems to focus upon the legality aspects of what are obviously illegal bikes it would be nice to have threads that compare the performance,quality,price etc of various e-bikes. Is a legal KTM bike better than a legal Kalkhoff? Is a European built bike better value/quality than a Chinese built bike? Is a 250 watt BPM hub motor better hillclimber than a 250 watt Bosch crank drive? Is a heavy but long life LifePo4 better value than a 3/4 year Lithium Ion battery? What's it like to live with a small battery to achieve light weight,such as the Freego Raptor.

There are so many subjects I would be interested in forum members opinions but we seem set on one subject.

KudosDave

I actually agree with you,it's a shame that this forum always seems to focus upon the legality aspects of what are obviously illegal bikes it would be nice to have threads that compare the performance,quality,price etc of various e-bikes. Is a legal KTM bike better than a legal Kalkhoff? Is a European built bike better value/quality than a Chinese built bike? Is a 250 watt BPM hub motor better hillclimber than a 250 watt Bosch crank drive? Is a heavy but long life LifePo4 better value than a 3/4 year Lithium Ion battery? What's it like to live with a small battery to achieve light weight,such as the Freego Raptor.

There are so many subjects I would be interested in forum members opinions but we seem set on one subject.

KudosDave

Know what you mean however it seems to me that the trade members are more obsessed by the subject than us 'normal' members.

What about them? Perfectly legal and you can join them if you wish. If you can't pedal that fast under your own effort, nature will dictate the correct speed for you

It will.

That's why people then choose to use an illegal e-bike.

Humans are always trying to beat nature.

Know what you mean however it seems to me that the trade members are more obsessed by the subject than us 'normal' members.

 

I agree with that,which is why for a period i stopped posting on here for a while,but on return there seems little change. It is quite important to us in the trade if there is a mechanism to register S class bicycles as bicycles,which would allow me to legally compete with the likes of the BS10 machines and James appeared confident that was possible, so I tried to extricate the mechanism from him,but it seems he was mistaken.

I'll move on elsewhere.

KudosDave

I think the point goes deeper than illegality or humans wanting to push limits.

 

After all, there is no continuous discussion about the fact that it's illegal to ride a bike blindfolded at 20mph through a crowded shopping street.

 

It's when a law is perceived to be too harsh, or just plain wrong, that people begin to mutter and complain. The ebike regulations are seen as ill-conceived and unnecessarily draconian. Hence we mutter, and complain.

 

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