When I go to China,on entry I have to fill in an entry form which states when I am leaving,it's a 2-part form,part A on entry,part B on exit,the form is very simple,stating how I arrived and how I intend to depart.

Customs scan my passport,hotels scan my passport,internal flights scan my passport,train stations scan my passport. I don't have a problem with this I can see the sense of knowing my movements.

I am sure that if I fail to submit Part B on exit,some computer would flag up that I haven't left and the police/customs would want to know where I am.

For reasons of security as well as control I can see the commonsense of this system.

I am sure that at the press of a button the Chinese know how many foreigners are in their country and how many didn't leave when they were supposed to....why can't we do this?

KudosDave

Sorry to disappoint all you remainers:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40774251

Perhaps we should all be kicked out March 2019.

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Shh! someone will hear you and realise that clearances like those not so long ago in Scotland will eliminate both the pollution and Energy problems, and leave lots of land for Foxhunting.

Sorry to disappoint all you remainers:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40774251

And there will be free Beer too, are you actually taking statements this Government make seriously?

The only thing that disappoints a remainer like me is that you still believe them!

why can't we do this?

Because we haven't a single politician that could organise a Whelk Stall at the seaside?

Sorry to disappoint all you remainers:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40774251

 

Do you believe anything that comes out of No10 these days.....remember when in March 2019 we were out and that's it,Brexit means Brexit,then we were having a couple of months transition,now it's 3 years. We were going to stop all EU immigration,now we are running out of nurses ,farm workers and hospitality people, we are going to have a sector migration study to figure out who we need.

Just wait until Corbyn and the House of Lords start making mischief on the Repeal Bill and it won't be long before we will be pleased to keep the EU laws because we are incapable to make our own.

It is clear that the EU want £50 billion plus and we will tell them to whistle and that will be the end of them offering any free trade deal,we will have to cough up the money,except the Brexiters won't let May pay it.

Ireland have left the UK in such an impossible position about the Eire/N.I. border ,that seems impossible to overcome.

May hates the ECJ but they are the legals behind the 'open skies',if we want planes flying in/out of the U.K.,May is going to have to accept the ECJ.

Barnier has told Davis that EU nationals and their offspring in the UK must be offered citizenship without strings attached,May will give in.

 

All this rubbish about the EU needing us.....we will still buy German Cars,we love Audi,BMW,Mercedes and VW....if we fall back on WTO rules it will hurt us very badly.it won't affect German exports....we will give in before they do and the deal will be bad for us,we will panic at the end and accept what they give us.

KudosDave

Let's see:

 

Tyrell's crisps - can live without, great farm made crisps just down the road.

Wheetabix - can live without, perhaps...

Marmelade - just found a new source in the Pyreneen foothills, yum!

Cheddar - lots of great cheeses around here

 

Do you make anything else I buy regularly?

Let's see:

 

Tyrell's crisps - can live without, great farm made crisps just down the road.

Wheetabix - can live without, perhaps...

Marmelade - just found a new source in the Pyreneen foothills, yum!

Cheddar - lots of great cheeses around here

 

Do you make anything else I buy regularly?

 

But can you live without Marmite?

KudosDave

"unfortunate consequences" suggests it's an accidental consequence of brexit, as some sort of neutral event. It's stating the obvious, but there is nothing accidental about brexit, much as there isn't about say trumps plummeting popularity.

.. ok replace with unforeseen. There is a school of thought which claims that there is no such entity as an accident. Every action has consequences , and if an accident occurs it was because someone had failed .

It is obviously the case that the proponents of Brexit assumed that only good things would flow , and that there could be no downside. In that mindset the removal of 35 major regulatory agencies, some located in the UK, could only be seen as unfortunate.,and maybe even vindictive.

But can you live without Marmite?

KudosDave

 

Always have!

But can you live without Marmite?

KudosDave

... YES YES a thousand times Yes....

Let's see:

 

Tyrell's crisps - can live without, great farm made crisps just down the road.

Wheetabix - can live without, perhaps...

Marmelade - just found a new source in the Pyreneen foothills, yum!

Cheddar - lots of great cheeses around here

 

Do you make anything else I buy regularly?

. French chips as they call crisps are really good. They make plain ones just with salt.. excellent... Have to say that neighbor works in local factory for them...

Marmalade... Really good stuff sold as conserves in France.. not adulterated with extra sugar or peptin. Try the bio shelves in the supermarkets..

But can you live without Marmite?

KudosDave

 

Now that would seriously challenge my political principles!

 

Tom

Now that would seriously challenge my political principles!

 

Tom

.. cannot work it out are you a marmite leaver? ,, IE in favour of leaving it in the shop.

Todays Sunny Promise from the Daily Express

"

'Once in a generation chance' Brexit boost for farming to SLASH food cost

BRITAIN has a “once in a generation opportunity” to slash the cost of food and improve the countryside when it frees itself of the EU’s hated Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), a major new report has revealed."

 

Slash food costs? so the Food banks can close, how nice!

Whatever: as the young are prone to remark.

 

And from the Independent we have the opposite reaction.

 

Brexit: UK households could face ‘considerable and unpredictable’ fluctuations in food prices, says IFS

Tariffs would raise the price of food imported from the EU, which accounts for 70 per cent of the UK’s gross food imports

 

It all come down to whether you have a Religious Zeal for Brexit and believe the Murdoch Press who are proven liars, or prefer reality I suppose

Edited August 1, 20178 yr by oldgroaner

200 billion pounds UK consumer debt. Sounds like a lot...

 

Since the beginning of the year private French saving has topped 10 billion euros, that is money saved since the beginning of this year. That is a huge problem for the French economy, that money would be better used elsewhere.

 

Seems we all have our financial problems but as mother would say better to have too much tucked away than too much debt.

Todays Sunny Promise from the Daily Express

"

'Once in a generation chance' Brexit boost for farming to SLASH food cost

BRITAIN has a “once in a generation opportunity” to slash the cost of food and improve the countryside when it frees itself of the EU’s hated Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), a major new report has revealed."

 

Slash food costs? so the Food banks can close, how nice!

Whatever: as the young are prone to remark.

 

And from the Independent we have the opposite reaction.

 

Brexit: UK households could face ‘considerable and unpredictable’ fluctuations in food prices, says IFS

Tariffs would raise the price of food imported from the EU, which accounts for 70 per cent of the UK’s gross food imports

 

It all come down to whether you have a Religious Zeal for Brexit and believe the Murdoch Press who are proven liars, or prefer reality I suppose

 

Don't worry as of 2019 I am going to stop buying UK produce so you can eat my share!

 

Seems we all have our financial problems but as mother would say better to have too much tucked away than too much debt.

 

I agree

 

https://debtclock.tv/world/france/

The incomparable.......sorry, that should be incompetent......Theresa May is still occupying a property in central London, doing a very poor impression of a Prime Minister.

 

Fortunately, we can all rest easy in our beds knowing that the little party - now rich, little party - over in Ireland have our backs covered. Guys like these will ensure the UK remains secure:

 

 

Now you can understand why Theresa chose to spend a spare billion quid so wisely......it's not as if it was needed anywhere else under her stewardship of the nation's finances.

 

 

If you wondered where that billion smackers came from as everyone knows there is no magic money tree, the answer's simple. You need look no further........

 

There you have it - politics made simple!

 

Tom

there is no magic money tree

 

There is, we are going to dig it up from the Brussels courtyard and plant it back in the UK.

There is, we are going to dig it up from the Brussels courtyard and plant it back in the UK.

 

and hope it crops at the rate of £350 millions a week?

 

I think not!

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There is, we are going to dig it up from the Brussels courtyard and plant it back in the UK.

You missed the rest of the story, in order that money from it will go into the pockets of the usual culprits in the Elite.

For you can be completely sure none will be heading in the direction of the Public.

That would never do "The will of the people would never allow it"

They want to feel that suffering will somehow make them "True Patriots"

To ensure this they are totally committed to personal financial and social Seppuku.

The former pink tory PM, Tony B-liar, remains at large which has me wondering if the International Criminal Court is simply snowed under with work.

 

There seems to be some weird double standard involved whereby some individuals from the Balkans war are hunted down and locked up for years, responsible for possibly tens of thousands of deaths, while B-liar and G.W. - the runt of the Bush litter - responsible for millions of deaths, are somehow regarded in the west now as elder statesmen who have served their respective countries well.

 

Craig Murray, former ambassador to Uzbekistan, had this to say about the B-liar situation following the latest judicial hearing of the case to prosecute the former UK PM:

"This surely is problematic. The judgement states that the UK, deliberately, does not follow international law in its domestic law. So the UK is an institutionalised rogue state. Its internal arrangements allow its rulers, its armed forces and other actors to commit international crimes and flout international law with no fear of domestic repercussion as a matter of conscious choice."

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/…/supreme-court-judges-…/amp/

 

So, it seems that laws and punishments are only for the poor, foreigners, socialists and anyone considered a political dissident but never for the elite of British or American society.

 

Dr David Kelly committed suicide because of the lies from B-liar, Alastair Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove, and others in that parliamentary and intelligence cabal. Kelly's impeccable career, his judgement and character were being assassinated in order to justify an illegal war. Others closely connected such as Jack Straw and Lord Goldsmith, could and should have done much more to prevent the pink-tory government of the day from ignoring the UN and causing a war which has resulted in the biggest civilian death toll since WW2....and the numbers continue to rise.

 

Tom

I think the tory propaganda department may have gone too far with this allegation......

 

 

Tom

The former pink tory PM, Tony B-liar, remains at large which has me wondering if the International Criminal Court is simply snowed under with work.

 

There seems to be some weird double standard involved whereby some individuals from the Balkans war are hunted down and locked up for years, responsible for possibly tens of thousands of deaths, while B-liar and G.W. - the runt of the Bush litter - responsible for millions of deaths, are somehow regarded in the west now as elder statesmen who have served their respective countries well.

 

Craig Murray, former ambassador to Uzbekistan, had this to say about the B-liar situation following the latest judicial hearing of the case to prosecute the former UK PM:

"This surely is problematic. The judgement states that the UK, deliberately, does not follow international law in its domestic law. So the UK is an institutionalised rogue state. Its internal arrangements allow its rulers, its armed forces and other actors to commit international crimes and flout international law with no fear of domestic repercussion as a matter of conscious choice."

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/…/supreme-court-judges-…/amp/

 

So, it seems that laws and punishments are only for the poor, foreigners, socialists and anyone considered a political dissident but never for the elite of British or American society.

 

Dr David Kelly committed suicide because of the lies from B-liar, Alastair Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove, and others in that parliamentary and intelligence cabal. Kelly's impeccable career, his judgement and character were being assassinated in order to justify an illegal war. Others closely connected such as Jack Straw and Lord Goldsmith, could and should have done much more to prevent the pink-tory government of the day from ignoring the UN and causing a war which has resulted in the biggest civilian death toll since WW2....and the numbers continue to rise.

 

Tom

Tom which part of might is right do you not understand... Not accept but understand?