July 11, 20169 yr ... Which we old farts who aren't image conscious buy cheap Would that be a good name for an ebike riders club.. exclusively for old farts ....
July 11, 20169 yr I also like the acronym. Dave. Oh you intelligent people.. that got me head scratching .. EFOF???
July 11, 20169 yr Oh you intelligent people.. that got me head scratching .. EFOF??? My favourite expression.
July 12, 20169 yr With a hand from those in the loop I looked in depth at the potential scenarios of Brexit for the cycling/e-bike world. There are very few scenarios where this result measurably improves things in the short term and most likely, long term: https://cyclingindustry.news/what-might-brexits-potential-outcomes-mean-for-bike-regulations-and-tariffs/
January 30, 20179 yr My local health food shop has put the price up on bottled Kombucha Tea which is produced in Yorkshire yet the shop owner told me the reason for the increase was because of Brexit. I thought Brexit only affected the price of imported goods into the UK.
January 30, 20179 yr Don't Labour principles support the free movement of people and many of the human rights laws,it would surely be a rejection of core labour. If Corbyn voted leave,he would be kicked out by both the MPs and his own voting party....don't forget most young people voted remain. KudosDave Most young people never voted
January 30, 20179 yr I too have put up my prices because of Brexit.. It costs me £3.15 to send a package to America thats worth between £10 and £16, and to be competitive I only charged £2.25. Now that my stuff is a good bit cheaper over there I have increased my shipping charge to £2.50.. I know its small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, and 25p doesn't sound much but it does add up and its the currency problems caused by Brexit thats allowed me to do it..
January 30, 20179 yr My local health food shop has put the price up on bottled Kombucha Tea which is produced in Yorkshire yet the shop owner told me the reason for the increase was because of Brexit. I thought Brexit only affected the price of imported goods into the UK. There have been some cases where the price increase has been due to the packaging. Amazingly some of our largest food producers in this country import all their labels and often containers from Germany. Why we can't print such simple things as labels in the UK is baffling, and it does make one wonder how on earth we'll manage on our own after Brexit. .
January 30, 20179 yr There have been some cases where the price increase has been due to the packaging. Amazingly some of our largest food producers in this country import all their labels and often containers from Germany. Why we can't print such simple things as labels in the UK is baffling, and it does make one wonder how on earth we'll manage on our own after Brexit. . also don't forget, you have to transport anything. Fuel has jumped a lot since referendum, all do to with it being purchased in $$ I think. And don't forget that the business owner in the UK has had all his/her costs go up. He / she has to eat, buy coffee for the office etc etc. Just because the direct product cost goes up, doesn't mean the end user cost isn't going up because of Brexit. Lots of people look at RRP as a really simple number, its influenced by a LOT of things.
January 30, 20179 yr There are so many angles to this Brexit thing with some saying its a good thing and some not, but at the end of the day we all voted for a Conservative government that was offering a referendum on the EU, which we were given as promised. I find it interesting that the losers want a re run on the referendum which they lost, but not of the Government election which they one!
January 30, 20179 yr I find it interesting that the losers want a re run on the referendum which they lost, but not of the Government election which they one! This doesn't make any logic... the election will get a rerun Thursday 7 May 2020 at the latest. Also I'm sure many were in favour of a referendum, but expected it to be run with a bit more of a basis in fact. The one we got was not something anyone can be proud of surely.
January 30, 20179 yr I find it interesting that the losers want a re run on the referendum which they lost, but not of the Government election which they one! Actually the opposite for the referendum, it was those wanting to leave who demanded the re run of the 1975 referendum which voted to stay in. And not entirely true of the government election either, since many including me have called for a fresh general election, on the grounds that Theresa May's choices are very far from the David Cameron manifesto we voted on in the general election. .
January 30, 20179 yr This doesn't make any logic... the election will get a rerun Thursday 7 May 2020 at the latest. Also I'm sure many were in favour of a referendum, but expected it to be run with a bit more of a basis in fact. The one we got was not something anyone can be proud of surely. So what are you saying ? The politicians, dont tell the truth, they openly lie, misdirect , bend the truth to suit their agenda, manipulate figures and statistics to prove a dubious truth.. It would seem that the majority thought it went ok, and the minority seem to think that the majority want to change their minds.. A good example is the figures on the young peoples vote.. It was said that a high percentage voted to stay, I think it was 75% or some such, when in fact that was the percentage of the few that voted and when added to those that didnt this percentage then becomes much lower, so most young people were not actually bothered. TBH however it goes doesnt make much difference to me, in or out I am not that bothered, but I had a vote, voted out and see no reason to change that if given the chance.
January 30, 20179 yr So what are you saying ? The politicians, dont tell the truth, they openly lie, misdirect , bend the truth to suit their agenda, manipulate figures and statistics to prove a dubious truth.. It would seem that the majority thought it went ok, and the minority seem to think that the majority want to change their minds.. A good example is the figures on the young peoples vote.. It was said that a high percentage voted to stay, I think it was 75% or some such, when in fact that was the percentage of the few that voted and when added to those that didnt this percentage then becomes much lower, so most young people were not actually bothered. TBH however it goes doesnt make much difference to me, in or out I am not that bothered, but I had a vote, voted out and see no reason to change that if given the chance. we're in danger of getting into a debate, that I'm afraid you won't win if you think the majority voted for Brexit. They didn't. That's a simple fact. You think in a referendum for change, that people not voting means they want the change, that's nonsense I'm afraid. It clearly shows a status of not understanding the question, or a happyness with the status quo. If they didn't fancy change, why bother going to vote when all predictions were that remain would win anyway. Also the fact you don't think it'll make much difference to you, also means you're not aware of the impacts of leaving. So there is no point me trying to explain things to you I suspect.
January 30, 20179 yr we're in danger of getting into a debate, that I'm afraid you won't win if you think the majority voted for Brexit. They didn't. That's a simple fact. You think in a referendum for change, that people not voting means they want the change, that's nonsense I'm afraid. It clearly shows a status of not understanding the question, or a happyness with the status quo. If they didn't fancy change, why bother going to vote when all predictions were that remain would win anyway. Also the fact you don't think it'll make much difference to you, also means you're not aware of the impacts of leaving. So there is no point me trying to explain things to you I suspect. You are probably right and I am not bothered about winning or losing a debate so it doesn't really matter, although I actually thought the majority voted brexit.. don't know how I got that one wrong.. I must admit to being a bit worried in the begining as I, like many, thought it was a foregone victory for remain... but all the instant end of life as we know it forecasts just didn't metrislise.. my biggest concern is how the elite's of this world are using their wealth, power and influence to change the vote.
January 30, 20179 yr You are probably right and I am not bothered about winning or losing a debate so it doesn't really matter, although I actually thought the majority voted brexit.. don't know how I got that one wrong.. I must admit to being a bit worried in the begining as I, like many, thought it was a foregone victory for remain... but all the instant end of life as we know it forecasts just didn't metrislise.. my biggest concern is how the elite's of this world are using their wealth, power and influence to change the vote. Its a simple lack of understanding of statistics, don't beat yourself up about it Its not just the elite who want to keep us in the EU, you know. That's pretty judgemental to assume that. Also Elite, does mean: "a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society" So to be honest I'd personally trust them on this more than the public vote from people who really don't understand the issue, and in many cases voted on emotion.
January 30, 20179 yr This all so much reminds me of my early working days when the bully boy union boys always won the strike vote becuse threats of violence or damaging your car kept the moderates in line. The introduction of postal ballots stopped all this and handed the power to the sensible majority. It's the same here.. you can kick the working man as hard as you like, just don't be surprised when given the chance he rebels..
January 30, 20179 yr So to be honest I'd personally trust them on this more than the public vote from people who really don't understand the issue, and in many cases voted on emotion. well, some may not have correctly understood what the EU is and does, but they know when they get a kick in the teeth and voted with their emotion.
January 30, 20179 yr well, some may not have correctly understood what the EU is and does, but they know when they get a kick in the teeth and voted with their emotion. ah, see there is the problem. They've had a kick in the teeth, and lashed out in the direction they were told to. The problem is they were told to lash out against the elite, but Farage, Johnson, Gove etc etc. who clearly are the Elite, so a large number of people who voted with their emotion have done something that is against the needs of this nation. You can't run a company, country etc etc on emotion, you have to think about causes and consequences, and look at evidence and the advice of experts. Otherwise you make a decision based on emotion and loose everything.
January 30, 20179 yr So what are you saying ? The politicians, dont tell the truth, they openly lie, misdirect , bend the truth to suit their agenda, manipulate figures and statistics to prove a dubious truth.. Yes, that is exactly what happened. I just give an example around just one of many false figures: The campaign claim that we paid £350 millions a week to the EU was a direct lie, since our rebate is deducted before payment, slashing the figure actually paid, In addition much of what remains is returned in regional grants, meaning the final figure is cut to a third. It was also stated in campaigning that the £350 millions per week would be diverted to the NHS. It hasn't been, will not be and couldn't be, since it never existed in the first place. .
January 30, 20179 yr Usual - and continuing - patronising 'you don't understand' claptrap from the remainers. While they fiddle, Rome, or rather Brussels, if not quite burning is beginning to smoulder.
January 30, 20179 yr This all so much reminds me of my early working days when the bully boy union boys always won the strike vote becuse threats of violence or damaging your car kept the moderates in line. The introduction of postal ballots stopped all this and handed the power to the sensible majority. It's the same here.. you can kick the working man as hard as you like, just don't be surprised when given the chance he rebels.. again, you're suggesting the working man voted for this. I know loads of working class people who voted remain. The problem is it wasn't the EU kicking the working man was it??.. it was the UK government decisions over the past 30 years and globalisation. Neither of which will be changed by leaving the EU.
January 30, 20179 yr ah, see there is the problem. They've had a kick in the teeth, and lashed out in the direction they were told to. The problem is they were told to lash out against the elite, but Farage, Johnson, Gove etc etc. who clearly are the Elite, so a large number of people who voted with their emotion have done something that is against the needs of this nation. You can't run a company, country etc etc on emotion, you have to think about causes and consequences, and look at evidence and the advice of experts. Otherwise you make a decision based on emotion and loose everything. It doesnt help your cause tho when all the doom and gloom threats didnt happen..
January 30, 20179 yr again, you're suggesting the working man voted for this. I know loads of working class people who voted remain. The problem is it wasn't the EU kicking the working man was it??.. it was the UK government decisions over the past 30 years and globalisation. Neither of which will be changed by leaving the EU. Maybe not but migration will be under our own control
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