yes, there was a vote last year... the UK (we) voted for this.

Oh. Sorry about that. Usually when I start an argument/discussion with a remainer I am pointedly told "it's what you voted for" It's not often your side will admit to any responsibility for the result. Not meaning any offence but I find the tone of your arguments similar to those of the remain polititions during the debate who spent far too much energy attacking the other side instead of countering their arguments.

It'll be checked at customs, or do you think it won't be?

 

I used to import PC cases from Rotterdam and Hamburg before the Single Market, there were hardly ever any delay due to inspections.

It'll be checked at customs, or do you think it won't be?

 

 

my swiss made rolex came from china they never checked that tho i cant say how they manage to do it.

 

i can even get weed from canada in the post fkn expensive tho.

I used to import PC cases from Rotterdam and Hamburg before the Single Market, there were hardly ever any delay due to inspections.

 

Things have moved on a bit since then! We had a parcel inspected last week and it came from Austria! So they are already tightening up.

It'll be checked at customs, or do you think it won't be?

 

 

my swiss made rolex came from china they never checked that tho i cant say how they manage to do it.

 

i can even get weed from canada in the post fkn expensive tho.

Oh SW you know how to open upba conversation where is my like button...

It'll be checked at customs, or do you think it won't be?

 

 

my swiss made rolex came from china they never checked that tho i cant say how they manage to do it.

 

i can even get weed from canada in the post fkn expensive tho.

 

they check a certain % of non trade stuff.

 

You try importing as a business, its a different game.

Things have moved on a bit since then! We had a parcel inspected last week and it came from Austria! So they are already tightening up.

Back in the 80s, about one out of 10 consignments by roads got pulled for inspection but did not cause much delay.

Back in the 80s, about one out of 10 consignments by roads got pulled for inspection but did not cause much delay.

 

Back in the 80s I suspect (I can check) but I doubt the UK imported as much as it does now from within the EU.

 

Also, lets just assmume your estimate from back then, runs today. 10% of all imports into the UK by road are pulled for inspection. Dover wouldn't cope with even that small amount. Cost of doing this? Cost to government, cost to consumer... for what benefit?

they are a business just a illegal one n there not cheap either for a decent one

they are a business just a illegal one n there not cheap either for a decent one

 

you are truly a hero, and an example to all of us.

Back in the 80s I suspect (I can check) but I doubt the UK imported as much as it does now from within the EU.

 

Also, lets just assmume your estimate from back then, runs today. 10% of all imports into the UK by road are pulled for inspection. Dover wouldn't cope with even that small amount. Cost of doing this? Cost to government, cost to consumer... for what benefit?

 

I suspect the percentage that gets pulled has always been there and won't change because of brexit.

I suspect the percentage that gets pulled has always been there and won't change because of brexit.

 

Based on what??? Your trust in the French not suddenly wanting to check all UK exports into the EU is based on what??

 

If we leave the single market, no one in the transport and distribution shares your optimism, that I've found.

you are truly a hero, andan example to all of us.

 

you should see the face on the jcp staff when i sign on and ask do i have savings over 6k and say no but i have a 20k rolex and a 6k bike

you are truly a hero, andan example to all of us.

 

you should see the face on the jcp staff when i sign on and ask do i have savings over 6k and say no but i have a 20k rolex and a 6k bike

Are you smoking weed at the time though?

no drink or food allowed no smoking and no public toilets less you disabled or ur kids are going to shite on the floor.

you are truly a hero, andan example to all of us.

 

you should see the face on the jcp staff when i sign on and ask do i have savings over 6k and say no but i have a 20k rolex and a 6k bike

 

Its just shame you can't work a simple "quote" function on a forum...

Its just shame you can't work a simple "quote" function on a forum...

 

i had my own forum last year thc chat but had to close it

http://thcchat.co.uk/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

 

this is the other site but gave it away long ago.

https://intensiveactivity.wordpress.com/

i had my own forum last year thc chat but had to close it

http://thcchat.co.uk/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

 

did you ban yourself for posting nonsense?

no just could not work out the script with mybb code and could not afford anything better so sort off got stuck with it as my m8 that did that sort of stuff died not long after it was set up and did my best with it.

 

was about 1 million views a year tho just could not make any money from it as ad sense wont do smoking advertising and also cos of that no help from mybb forum.

no just could not work out the script with mybb code and could not afford anything better so sort off got stuck with it as my m8 that did that sort of stuff died not long after it was set up and did my best with it.

 

was about 1 million views a year tho just could not make any money from it as ad sense wont do smoking advertising and also cos of that no help from mybb forum.

Hey SW. As a matter of pure curiosity and of course the op. Did you vote in or out?

im not registered to vote as i never filled in the form im a(removed by admin - could you please stop the derogatory use of that term)

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yes, there was a vote last year... the UK (we) voted for this.

 

Voted for what? Unemployment rates have not increased.

Voted for what? Unemployment rates have not increased.

 

It wasn't me who said they'd been job looses, because of Brexit.

 

A company I know of buys everything by the dollar price so have literally lost millions so far.. So what have they done? Lost money perhaps? Nope, just got rid of staff to balance things out..

 

Even in my little company, we've made cut backs and didn't take on the apprentice we had planned last year. We've cut marketing and had to pull out of shows. We've even dropped one brand.

 

If you don't think all these little things have impacts, you are mistaken.

I have been away from here for a few months & only came back for an early morning browse and to mention some people in need of your help but I am intrigued by way that Brexit has become so angrily debated on a forum about Bikes.

Fair play to the trade members who have pinned their colours to the mast so openly..........

 

Back in 1975 I voted in the EEC membership referendum, I was influenced by the fact that I felt that joining the Common Market would be a slap in the face to our Commonwealth friends in Australia and New Zealand and Tony Benn was warning about the dangers of us creeping towards a United States of Europe, less control over our laws and the introduction of a single currency.

I voted to stay out, most of the other people in the UK voted to stay in, I shrugged my shoulders and got on with it, I am sure that some of the more passionate 'losers' must have complained but most people voted in so the best thing to was to get on with it.

 

The next time I took any real interest in what was going on was when the Euro came along, I was travelling by road to lots of European cities by then and my business was small but doing alright, if I had been given the choice to join the Euro I would have taken it. It would be convenient and make us more integrated into Europe wouldn't it? We didn't join (phew) and so I had to get on with changing my Pounds to Euros.

 

Next up (for me) came Tony Blair and the twisting and turning relating to the European Constitution and the Lisbon Treaty. Too busy to take all that stuff in but he was a British Prime Minister so I knew I could trust him!

 

In 2007 my company established a relationship with a large American Company that involves regularly visiting Brussels, I have learnt several things as a result, don't leave an English registered car (or in my instance van) parked on the side of the road near the Botanical Gardens, it will be vandalised, Brussels has a really good motor museum, Belgian beers are great as long as you drink them in Belgium - the size and number of EU buildings there is mind boggling, the departmental names on those buildings are unfathomable and you cannot afford to drink or eat in the trendy bars and cafes in the 'EU Quarter' unless you have an expense account.

 

I treasure our relationship with fellow Europeans, breathe a sigh of relief if I am greeted by an Eastern European accent in a shop or hotel here in the U.K. because the service is usually better than I would otherwise get.

 

We are stuck with the result of the referendum, like it or not. There were an awful lot of people who cared enough to actually go and vote us out, if you really believe that things are going to be that bad get off of your a**e and try to mitigate the effects it may have on you and the rest of this very fortunate country. The outcome is not a matter of life and death - however, here comes the plug:

 

Children are starving to death in Yemen as a result of a proxy war often fought with British & other European made bullets please choose a suitable charity and give - its urgent, far more urgent than Article 50.

I have been away from here for a few months & only came back for an early morning browse and to mention some people in need of your help but I am intrigued by way that Brexit has become so angrily debated on a forum about Bikes.

Fair play to the trade members who have pinned their colours to the mast so openly..........

 

Back in 1975 I voted in the EEC membership referendum, I was influenced by the fact that I felt that joining the Common Market would be a slap in the face to our Commonwealth friends in Australia and New Zealand and Tony Benn was warning about the dangers of us creeping towards a United States of Europe, less control over our laws and the introduction of a single currency.

I voted to stay out, most of the other people in the UK voted to stay in, I shrugged my shoulders and got on with it, I am sure that some of the more passionate 'losers' must have complained but most people voted in so the best thing to was to get on with it.

 

The next time I took any real interest in what was going on was when the Euro came along, I was travelling by road to lots of European cities by then and my business was small but doing alright, if I had been given the choice to join the Euro I would have taken it. It would be convenient and make us more integrated into Europe wouldn't it? We didn't join (phew) and so I had to get on with changing my Pounds to Euros.

 

Next up (for me) came Tony Blair and the twisting and turning relating to the European Constitution and the Lisbon Treaty. Too busy to take all that stuff in but he was a British Prime Minister so I knew I could trust him!

 

In 2007 my company established a relationship with a large American Company that involves regularly visiting Brussels, I have learnt several things as a result, don't leave an English registered car (or in my instance van) parked on the side of the road near the Botanical Gardens, it will be vandalised, Brussels has a really good motor museum, Belgian beers are great as long as you drink them in Belgium - the size and number of EU buildings there is mind boggling, the departmental names on those buildings are unfathomable and you cannot afford to drink or eat in the trendy bars and cafes in the 'EU Quarter' unless you have an expense account.

 

I treasure our relationship with fellow Europeans, breathe a sigh of relief if I am greeted by an Eastern European accent in a shop or hotel here in the U.K. because the service is usually better than I would otherwise get.

 

We are stuck with the result of the referendum, like it or not. There were an awful lot of people who cared enough to actually go and vote us out, if you really believe that things are going to be that bad get off of your a**e and try to mitigate the effects it may have on you and the rest of this very fortunate country. The outcome is not a matter of life and death - however, here comes the plug:

 

Children are starving to death in Yemen as a result of a proxy war often fought with British & other European made bullets please choose a suitable charity and give - its urgent, far more urgent than Article 50.

 

 

If I had been at a rugby match which ended 17 16 points the only conclusion I would have drawn is that it was a very close result. I would have accepted that one side had ground out a victory. The supposition that there was therefore a mandate for change was and still is false. The success of the "brexiteers" has been to confuse the UK population , since the referendum that there was a will of the people which had to be appeased. There was not much a mandate. There was no requirement to leave, the difference between that and and the rugby match where there is a requirement for league progression. Is stark.

 

What was disturbing in the recent Westminster debate was that the substantial issue was never addressed, by those responsible for your well-being ... What would be gained by the UK as against what would be lost. The bulk of the debate was squandered on modalities instead.