just put in a bit extra sealant then and you should get it to seal up my front is tl ready and its a pita anyway.

Noticed that most tubeless is set up for Presta which is trad ionally used for road set ups, very few Schrader TL products out there which as always been mtb territory in the main. Though I guess this is lead by the continentals like Scwalbe and Hutchinson.

i just have a normal foot pump and use an adaptor for it, worst case is go down the garage and use the air comp in blown tyre mode but got a small 12v one now.

Just a last comment on tube vs. tubeless;

First off, I do not like "Slimed" tubes and liners, which have caused me more problems than they solved.

So, I prefer, in this order;

1)The "kevlar" tires like the Schwalbe Marathon, etc., WHEN they fit my needs(size).

BUT, my current street Ebike uses 24" X 2.4" tires and the only thing avail. in that size are BMX tires like the Hookworm, CST's and Holy Rollers. Great tires, but thin. So...

2)These I run tubeless. Not sure yet if I will actually get fewer flats running tubeless, but I have had enough to know I can fix 90% along side the roadway in 5 minutes and there is a lot to be said for that.

3)Off road, I worry a bit about knocking a tubeless off the bead, so I run HD motorcycle type tires like these;

https://www.bikebling.com/Kenda-Nevegal-DH-Stick-E-24-x2-5-p/kenda-nevegal-dh-24sticke.htm?gclid=CjwKEAjwuo--BRDDws3x65LL7h8SJABEDuFRNNClUKWNJtttpBZxe07TaVZbPKDGKk6WaPeXVpVJLBoC6lbw_wcB&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc_feed&utm_campaign=comparison_shopping_feeds

...w/ HD tubes.

I haven't had a flat w/ these tires, but my tubes use a threaded Schrader valves which I lock down and if I get a flat, the plan is to force some sealant into the tube, inflate and possibly make it back to the truck. If the tube won't hold it, the rim is sealed and if Ifind and plug the hole in the tire, maybe I can force enough sealant thru the tube and seal the tire tempoarily. Well, that's the plan anyhow.

I tried to go TL this week but wasn't able to get the tyres to seat at all using a track pump , put the tubes back in for now. Today had a pinch puncture following a quick rutted/flinty decent having reduced psi for todays ride:(, so will have a rethink and may have to try ghetto. My rims aren't shallow so quite a gap for the tyres to seat up against the rim, other wise its going to be pricey to get ready rims and tyres etc.

Try this...

 

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/ghetto-tubeless-inflator-total-cost-9p

I tried to go TL this week but wasn't able to get the tyres to seat at all using a track pump , put the tubes back in for now. Today had a pinch puncture following a quick rutted/flinty decent having reduced psi for todays ride:(, so will have a rethink and may have to try ghetto. My rims aren't shallow so quite a gap for the tyres to seat up against the rim, other wise its going to be pricey to get ready rims and tyres etc.

Now that you have got the rims taped, lube one tyre bead with sealing liquid and over inflate using the tube, this should securely bed that bead, deflate carefully and pop the other bead to remove the tube and insert the valve, with one bead seated it should make life a little easier, access to a compressor makes it a breeze.

i bought a cheap compressor of ebay as my front was a pita to get sealed even tho the rim and tyre is tl ready, not even the blown tyre mode could get it up at the garage.

 

i just left it for 20 odd mins then managed to get it up with a foot pump as had a bit off time to go off round the bead.

 

my rear tyre went up first time even with no sealent in it but took an hour to get it on the rim lol.

 

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-co2-tyre-inflator-set-with-2-cartridges/?lang=en&curr=GBP&dest=1&sku=5360510046&kpid=5360510046&utm_source=google&utm_term&utm_campaign=UK_PLA_Accessories&utm_medium=base&utm_content=mkwid%7csmHBj6iVG_dc%7cpcrid%7c67090840622%7cpkw%7c%7cpmt%7c%7cprd%7c5360510046uk

Edited September 28, 20169 yr by soundwave

Try this...

 

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/ghetto-tubeless-inflator-total-cost-9p

 

Yes that looks good, I viewed it on Ed's link. Should be easy to try and safe as my Airzound uses the same principle and I pump that to 100psi.

Now that you have got the rims taped, lube one tyre bead with sealing liquid and over inflate using the tube, this should securely bed that bead, deflate carefully and pop the other bead to remove the tube and insert the valve, with one bead seated it should make life a little easier, access to a compressor makes it a breeze.

 

Thanks for the tip will give it a try, may have to add some more rim tape first though as not confident tyre will stay on the rim during use if it burps. As I have the proper rim tape on may use the Gorilla/ghetto to add extra on top.

 

cant get lower psi than that

Iast night i was 9 miles from home and my rear tyre received a flint puncture ripping a 4mm hole in tyre. Stans liquid poured out to no avail. stupidly my wife was at work, i had no tube and no way to repair. decided to mainly walk , but the odd occasion rode bike putting most weight on front tyre. not a happy bunny. i have decided to change tyres from smart sam plus to marathon plus and go back to inner tubes. sometimes the stans seal, sometimes not. the problem you then have is a messy inner tube insert clearing out the stans or a external plug repair which is ok but temp once you have a decent rip in tyre.

i figured best puncture tyre i could by with inner tubes. if get puncture no mess and easy fix i.e. park or slime patch on tube.

should say i've been using stans seal for years with mixed results, but a fair bit of mess when changing tyre etc.

 

cant get lower psi than that

And I still wouldn't have got anywhere near his time.

omg amazing!

Iast night i was 9 miles from home and my rear tyre received a flint puncture ripping a 4mm hole in tyre. Stans liquid poured out to no avail. stupidly my wife was at work, i had no tube and no way to repair. decided to mainly walk , but the odd occasion rode bike putting most weight on front tyre. not a happy bunny. i have decided to change tyres from smart sam plus to marathon plus and go back to inner tubes. sometimes the stans seal, sometimes not. the problem you then have is a messy inner tube insert clearing out the stans or a external plug repair which is ok but temp once you have a decent rip in tyre.

i figured best puncture tyre i could by with inner tubes. if get puncture no mess and easy fix i.e. park or slime patch on tube.

should say i've been using stans seal for years with mixed results, but a fair bit of mess when changing tyre etc.

 

 

£5.99 for a Weldtite tubeless repair kit as shown in the very first post, and a pump/C02 canister would have seen the tyre repaired seconds.

 

It is even listed in last months Singletrack magazine as highly recommended and must have in your carry kit.

 

https://www.evanscycles.com/weldtite-tubeless-patch-kit-00103371

 

I'd never ride anywhere without the above and also a spare tube. Neither take up any room.

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited September 30, 20169 yr by EddiePJ

I can attest to the usefulness of the Weldtite kit, I used one to repair a 5mm flint cut in February and the fix is still holding air even if it's looking a bit tatty now.

This sounds much better than my old kit to repair external cuts. i'll give a go thanks guys!

When going tubeless, sometimes it pays to carry a crude Auto tire plug kit.

 

When I am resigned to walking, I head for a convinence store where there is a compressor, Fix-A-Flat in a can and maybe the fore mentioned plug kit.

Had another try late afternoon and had a little more success. I'm swapping over the Q128C and the Bafang CST, so after relacing and trueing the bafang rim I rim taped up. I layer of the Caffelatex tape was no where near enough for my rims and a spare Nobby I'm using for dry practice, I added one layer of Gorilla Handy tape and the valve and still not enough so a 2nd wrap of Gorilla was used. The tyre then inflated with my track pump to 25psi and then deflated after 30 secs, the old Nobby had 3 or 4 thorne holes leaking air. Hopefully later tomorrow I will fit the brand new tyre to see how long it stays inflated before adding the sauce.

Once I get success with this one I can then try the cyclocross tyre on my 700c.

I use a product called Airshot, have search on the Internet for it.

 

Since buying I have used it at least 20 times and had no problem seating tyres tubelessly.

 

I don't have any connection with the company , just a satisfied user.

Even inflates and seat fat bike tyres.

 

Dennis or anyone else who has/uses an Airshot, does this work with Schrader valves as well or is it a trick pony only.

I just had a look on the Airshot website, they now sell an adaptor for Schrader valves.

 

I have only ever used it with presta valves, but would still be the same.

 

Removing the valve core is the way to go, this gives a fast rush of pressure to seat the tyre.

 

If the tyre proves difficult to seat, then put an inner tube in the wheel / tyre.

Pump up to the maximum tyre pressure and leave for at least two hours.

 

Deflate the inner tube, just break the bead on one side of the tyre to remove the inner tube.

 

Insert the tubeless schrader valve, put the tyre back on.

 

Reinflate using the Airshot at about 150 psi.

 

Tyre will inflate and seat.

Quickly take the Airshot off the valve, and quickly install the valve core.

 

Then pump up again to the tyre max pressure.

 

Leave the tyre like this for about an hour.

 

Deflate , remove valve core and add the tubeless solution e.g. Stans.

 

Reinflate to a high pressure and swish the fluid around , plenty of wheel shaking videos online.

 

Leave at a high pressure for about an hour.

 

Before riding lower pressure to your normal riding pressure.

I'm almost at my wits end trying to go TL, even with a TL rim and tyre can't get this s**t to set up. Can get the tyre to pop on but when I remove tube just can't get the one bead to seat, my track pump is not able to produce enough volume.

Ok, you can get thetyre to seat using the inner tube, yes.

 

Then carefully remove the tube and insert the tubeless valve, yes.

 

The tyre then needs to be put back on the rim, I know, obvious etc.

 

The next stage is key. You need a high pressure and volume of air to seat the tyre.

Airshot is very good for this, compressor at the petrol station is another option.

 

I have never been able to get the tyre to seat with a track pump though. Not enough volume or pressure produced from a track pump.

I'm almost at my wits end trying to go TL, even with a TL rim and tyre can't get this s**t to set up. Can get the tyre to pop on but when I remove tube just can't get the one bead to seat, my track pump is not able to produce enough volume.

 

Warm the tyres up first.. I have had good results with co2 capsules, you may need a couple of tries. Once you have used the capsule the air and liquid will escape from the side. So hold the wheel horizontal and swill the fluid round the wheel then turn it over and swill round the other side. It should seal, top up the pressure with your pump and then swill a bit more.. Job done! If you want to check 100% then apply a soapy solution and look for bubbles.

Thanks Dennis, yep need the air volume to reseat in seated side. The ps forecourt is to much of a faff.