Well, after much tutting and wtf, I finally got there. I'd love to show you the result but I've already expanded my computer skills enormously and I'm not sure I can take any more !

 

Thanks for the tutorials Guerny.

Isopropol cleaner .

Isopropol cleaner .

 

Absolutely, I always have a bottle in the house. Handy for many things.

Absolutely, I always have a bottle in the house. Handy for many things.

top tip!!

A spectacles lens cleaning liquid pump dispenser is a solvent resistant free dispenser for 99% isoprop for misting onto labels for an easy peel or cleaning purposes, very little waste as a single spray is absorbed and evaporated rapidly, great for many uses even a portable sanitiser for hands and surfaces.. i think the original solution is a 30-50% solution of isopropanol

Purely out of interest does any one know if there are now or could be used in the near future any devise to test the continued wattage coming out of a Hub motor ?

Purely out of interest does any one know if there are now or could be used in the near future any devise to test the continued wattage coming out of a Hub motor ?

There is no way to measure an ebike's continuous power because the power is different at different speeds, and while you run the motor, the voltage is going down all the time and the power also goes down more or less in proportion.

 

You can measure maximum power in certain conditions using a dynamometer, which can show the power at each rpm.

 

They could use the rating test to find out the maximum power the motor can run at without over-heating in ideal conditions, but ebikes don't run in ideal conditions, which is why they can't pin down a specification for the power without excluding a lot of their use.

Thank mate that’s very helpful for any one who wants an off road bike with a bit more torque that can automatically revert back to road legal settings once turned off .

 

My cousins club do a lot of on and off road riding day outs in Buckinghamshire.

 

I must join one of these days for a pub trip

Well that's me all stickered up.

 

All the information on them is true.

 

I also carry a spec sheet of the motor and the invoice from the conversion kit seller (without the red bits of course)

 

Plus I have no throttle.

 

I reckon I've done all I can to safeguard my bike from the new e-bike seizure squads.

 

Looks good very professional

OK, so these are the stickers I've settled on. I will be printing them on glossy photo paper and fixing them with helicopter tape.

 

This is for the frame:

 

 

This is for the motor:

 

 

What do you think?

You are highly unlikely to ever have a problem, but in a pedantic technical sense there is a lot wrong here.

 

1. Your motor is not marked by the manufacturer as 250W, and so technically is not compliant.

2. Your DIY labels are purporting to be by the manufacturer and so are misleading. Lawyers might be harsher than my words here.

3. MXUS did not make your bike and should not be shown as it's manufacturer on the label on the bike frame. You are probably the 'manufacturer' as the person doing the conversion.

4. The bike label overlays the manufacturer's decals, and so is very obviously not applied by them. More likely to encourage a closer look than to prevent it.

 

I think you would be better off with honest DIY labels containing accurate information and no misrepresentation, plus carrying the receipt for the motor from the supplier that shows they supplied it as a 250W motor, information on which you are probably entitled to 'rely' in the legal sense of that word.

 

Conversions are tolerated despite being technically at least a grey area: I don't think you are in any worse a position with the above than any other conversion.

You are highly unlikely to ever have a problem, but in a pedantic technical sense there is a lot wrong here.

 

1. Your motor is not marked by the manufacturer as 250W, and so technically is not compliant.

2. Your DIY labels are purporting to be by the manufacturer and so are misleading. Lawyers might be harsher than my words here.

3. MXUS did not make your bike and should not be shown as it's manufacturer on the label on the bike frame. You are probably the 'manufacturer' as the person doing the conversion.

4. The bike label overlays the manufacturer's decals, and so is very obviously not applied by them. More likely to encourage a closer look than to prevent it.

 

You're misrepresenting the law. The law is that the label must have the manufacturer's name, not that the label must be made by the manufacturer. Anybody can make the label.

 

It would be fraudulent to deliberately write incorrect information on the label, like 250w, when it's a 350w motor.

 

He put the label on the motor, not the bike, so he's not misrepresenting the bike. The rules are there so that the police can check that it is indeed a 250w motor and the bike's limited to 25 km/hr. As long as you give them that info, they'll be happy.

 

Waspy has the full traceability of his motor, and the documents back up what's written on the label. There's no way he can get into trouble.

I see both points of view basically Bafang motors say Bafang on the motor not the bike for instance .

 

I think if some one knows the rules on motor power and decides to risk it then that’s there look out .

If you get caught you lose your bike and possibly more.

 

Personally I think 250w is fine but then if some one wants an off road on road bike that can be changed then it should be allowed ie a 500W motor that is being limited by a law abiding rider on road to stay whith in the rules should be legal and allowed .

 

Sadly it is not .

 

And those who want to are cheating anyway