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I'm not quite that old, but I have seen evolution in action. When I was young fish didn't have fingers, but now they are so common that we wean our kids on them. .

It'd get very confusing with kids putting go faster red triangles on their pushbikes...

Hmm, repealed in 1896 which, by my calculation, was before the twentieth century. (As it was introduced in 1865, it actually preceded the motor car by almost twenty years!) [Many thanks to internet for making it easy to check up on "I thought I remembered xxx".]

I remember that too, flecc Jim

At the end of this month the Brexit trade vote goes through the commons,there are amendments that will force the government to stay in the customs union but not the single market. This is the best opportunity to force some common sense into this government. I think staying in the customs union will keep us in the EU without tariffs,the NI problem is solved,I think we keep the 65 trade deals that the EU has already achieved,we won’t be able to strike out to do our own trade deals so Liam Fox won’t have a job....don’t see any downsides. KudosDave

I was forced to smile at the triangle on the front suggestion. It reminded me of the man carrying a red flag walking in front of motor cars early in the 20th century. .

Like AK, I had a Hoover washer that lasted over 25 years with me replacing brushes twice. Don't expect the new one to last that long. When do you think led lighting manufacturers will start shortening the life of lamps? My house is lit by led's with a spec of 15-20,000 hours. "They'll see us out Doris"

dos anybody know how to remove crank arms on levo turbo please is this nut socket to come out to expose threads for a normal crank puller dont want to try till i know

So thats how you manage to keep yur bike looking so clean... Is that you in your high vis cycling vest?

Ha, that is so amusing.. I am now on my third last ever car...

No, they're still doing it:

Sh#t, how old are you guys?

Cheers for that, it worked like a charm!

Why do you need a crank drive...any hub drive with the BPM motor will surpass the crank drive for hill climbing. But you say you need a folder with small wheels,the torque of a BPM motor will destroy the spokes on 20” wheels. The Kudos Secret takes my 110 kgs up mountains out in Greece with minimal pedalling,we have sold thousands to big guys. There is a throttle option whilst current stocks last. Looks like you are being told what a salesman has in stock rather than what is a suitable bike. The Kalkhoff Compact is not a folder,if this is the style you like please look at the Kudos Sprint KudosDave

That's only the exception that proves the rule. After all, inside Theresa May is a fat woman struggling to get out. .

That's one basis on which I should be a natural tory... :-(

You don't really need brake sensors with that controller it cuts power as soon as you stop pedalling. When you are maneuvering the trike it is best to select assistance level 0 because if you bump the pedal by accident it can take off, just make it a habit. What dropouts do you have? My AZUB has Rohloff OEM dropouts as standard equipment so I wouldn't need torque arms if I chose to mount a hub motor. Latest Rohloff spec says good for 130 nm so I guess they are a bit on the conservative side and you might be OK to 150 nm.

For torque arms I'd use these, they don't use a jubilee clip. I use just one on my front hub - bombproof. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Torque-Arm-Electric-bikes-e-bikes-Pedelecs-Stainless-Steel-Heavy-Duty-/252680077959?var=&clk_rvr_id=1438448257610&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=twenga&utm_campaign=twenga&utm_param=eyJlcyI6MCwicyI6OTcyMDIzNywiY2kiOiIwMzdmNzc1MmRhNjcwOTFhNDJiZTJjYjczNDBiMzFiOCIsImkiOiIyNTI2ODAwNzc5NTkiLCJ0cyI6MTUxODM2MjU1OCwidiI6Mywic28iOjE1MDAsImMiOjE3NzgxNH0%3D&rmvSB=true

15 years? You must have used calgon!

How many hours have I spend removing virii from friends and families computers for free... I managed to stop that racket by saying "sorry I don't know about windows I only use Linux".

Thought I’d give a bit of an update to the review now I’ve had 20 rideouts on it totalling just 137 mile . Mainly used on the work commute with the odd longer trip at weekends . It’s certainly helping me enjoy cycling again even with the dodgy weather and local poorly maintained cycle paths ( thanks Salford council ! ) . I have made several improvements lately a suntour nsx suspension seat post has improved ride comfort considerably. A zefal FM20 front mudguard/deflector keeps mud out of my face whilst looking reasonably stylish . I added a better front light the Aldi one is fine on well lit roads but useless on unlit cycleways I have bought a cateye volt 500XC 500 lumen max which illuminates the unlit cycleways rather well it’s small lightweight with reasonable battery life . I have recently ordered a larger front sprocket 20 teeth as I’ve found myself running out of gears quite often especially since I realised it’s a 10 speed block and NOT 11 speed lol . My fitness is improving and hopefully I’m resolving several health issues ( thanks Oyster ) turns out my Vitamin D , Ferrite levels and B12 are all very low which explains my joint pains and loss of sensation in fingers . Hoping these will improve now I have supplements to get them back up . I have also had my levothyroxine dose increased . The joys of getting older eh ? Hopefully a bit wiser though !? ;-)

FYI. I had one like that with no brace on my fatbike, and it would turn on the chain stay arm. I started to tighten it and arrgh I felt the fastener go loose and I realized the metal tube (steel) was being crushed. I stopped, but could see that the round tube was slightly flattened. It had two hard rubber pads that fit around the frame to prevent paint scratches. I added a brace like yours, and I was able to make it work with minimal clamping force. Later the kickstand arm snapped in half. I bought a second one, which has lasted a year now,

The Ice Spikers have been on since Christmas. Although they do the job asked of them, I hate riding on them. The profile is very unfriendly for road riding and I long for the day when I can put the Land Cruisers back on. There is very little else to report about the eMate, except that it is performing very well. The battery is now 2.5 years old, but I still reckon 40 miles would be possible at legal speeds - more on the Land Cruisers. Once the winter is over, I will replace the derailleur, chain & cassette, as they have done the best part of 3000 miles by my reckoning without much protection from the elements. I was contemplating fitting an 11-speed set up, but then I saw the cost! I'll stick with 3x9-speed for now. Earlier in the thread, some 48v batteries were recommended. I might go for that once the battery starts fading significantly. Why can't I ever leave well alone?!

Yep the crank bolts are self extracting bolts, what I did with mine was to undo them till they were as tight as I was game, then went for a short ride loaded up the cranks then they came straight of.

Yes, Chain is less than 50 miles old - I did my best with it today, and will see how I manage on my commute tomorrow morning. Funny, it will be dark and freezing, but I look forward to the journey to work now in a way I didn't last year when I was driving.

Seriously, your judging the other components by something that everyone changes on every bike after buying ? The bike must be crap, it's got a £2 bell on it lol

Is she a good cook? If no keep the bikes...

Theresa May will keep repeating the boring ‘ we are going to get a free trade deal with the EU’ She is clearly relying on this to overcome all the Brexit problems including the NI problem,which is why she says we are leaving the customs union and single market. But the EU have said that we cannot rely on getting such a deal. I suspect that May will achieve a deal with the EU but it will have many clauses that restrict the U.K. from doing anything that adversely affects the EU,but this will be packaged in such a way that Brexiteers can claim a success. KudosDave

I feel for you, I really do. I've been self-employed in one way or another for the last decade and can relate to your experiences. In the UK, more than anywhere else, do people know the cost of everything and the value of nothing!

and a suspension seatpost, and a pair of upswept handlebars, possibly a riser as well, had to go through all these before i got any sort of comfort.

We've covered this subject many, many times, but always with the same conclusions. The key one is that UK governments are only prepared to discuss speed limit reductions, our roads bearing witness to this. Over very large areas now 60 mph zones have all but disappeared, the former 50 limit is defunct, and reduction from 60 being straight down to 40 or even 30mph. And in huge swathes of cities and towns we now have 20 mph limits. My own borough, one of the largest in the UK now has the borough wide 20 limit on all but a few major through routes. That alone is a killer for any suggestion that e-bikes could be permitted 30 mph, given that most commuting is in urban areas. The DfT have voiced fierce opposition to any suggestion of adopting the 28 mph S class of e-bikes, and they aren't alone in that. Germany in the EU had it first in a registered form, but since only the Netherlands have adopted it in a limited form. France thought about it for 2017 but has now not gone ahead and no other EU nation entertains it. There's also recent legal obstruction like our introduction of the Q group driving licence, and that would apply to any 30 mph e-bike. Such bikes under our laws would also have to be registered, number plated, third party insured and new riders would have to carry L plates and go though the CBT. All riders would have to wear motorcycle approved helmets, that would have to be when 30 mph moped riders have to wear them. Finally your arguments for adoption of 30 mph don't bear examination. The halvings etc you speak of assume millions of drivers abandon their cars and take up cycling. That's never going to happen in our car culture, even bicycle hating country. .

What do you envisage the consequences in your scheme of things with the widespread use of unrestricted 30mph capable e-bikes of a moped class that are hard to differentiate to the naked eye from conventional bikes sharing joint cycle paths with pedestrians?

Have a read in here https://electricbikereview.com/forum/threads/pain-in-the-neck-and-back-wrong-frame-size.16025/ I found the more upright position took the weight off the shoulders and wrists as well which were giving discomfort after a couple of miles, not very aerodynamic and all that but another plus is you get to see much more of the countryside rather than being head down and bent over

1k over isn't something I can stretch to. I was looking at the 500w Reaction.. maybe I can call in some early birthday money from relatives )

Or do what I did and get a used one, my 7 month old Cube Reaction Race 500 cost me £1000 off a guy on eBay.

the Telegraph have an odd perspective " Michel Barnier is risking a UK walkout, EU states fear " Fear? do they really expect that the EU Fear that? Nonsense!

Why we are heading for trouble in the Streets From the independent " Brexit: Official document raises prospect of tampering with workers' rights to boost economy Exclusive: Government paper sets out how protections for employees is an area in which ministers can 'maximise opportunities' after withdrawal Government officials have raised the prospect that hard-won workers’ rights could be reviewed by the Government after Brexit to boost Britain’s economy. A Whitehall impact assessment singles out workers’ protections – such as preventing people from being forced to work too many hours – as an area that might be used for “maximising regulatory opportunities” after withdrawal. MPs who have seen the document claimed it shows ministers are considering weakening employment rights post-Brexit – with one branding the paper an “absolute disgrace”. When people voted for Brexit this wasn't something they wanted, was it?

It's the Conservative way, after all! They encourage self sacrifice but exclude themselves.

If a tory government still holds power after 'Brexit', there will be an awful lot of very disenchanted people around the UK looking to blame someone for their new-found disenfranchisement and reduction from the 'JAM' status of the class of working poor to that of impoverished benefit cases. Tom

Ah yes, I may be a dinasour but my outlook is more up to date, well not totally as you can never be "up to date". Point being that a lot of things bought now are just not repairable and are designed to be thrown away and replaced. If evrything made now lasted as long as those of yesteryear a lot of manufacturers wouldnt make as much money as they do .. As an example.. I bought an expensive sony bluetooth headset, the tiny ones that are just a band around your head, and after I allowed them to become discharged for an extended period they wouldnt recharge.. As they were now £100 worth of scrap I decided to investigate and found that.. 1/ They were never meant to be opened up. 2/ The small battery inside was in fact chinese. 3/ After much searching I found one in China for £1.50 including shipping, but when it came it didnt work either. In conclusion.. The lifetime of gadgets and small apliances are not what they used to be and may even be designed to fail after a relatively short time, and as the young of today have never experienced white goods lasting 10 or 20 years, they think its acceptable, normal even.. Well thats my morning coffee and Sunday rant out of the way, so will make the wifes breakfast and get on with my day..

And they will remember how much they saved by these unlawful fees: both in the costs of courts and the companies that didn't have to comply with the laws regarding employment or pay out when they didn't. A big incentive to exhume it it - no matter how stinking it is.

Well such e-bikes are already available, so mainly what you want is those additional laws, the first for all cyclists. Why the triangle when the rear number plate tells drivers this is no ordinary bicycle? But if you want the present bureaucracy free e-bikes to be permitted 30 mph, forget it, it's never going to happen. Why would government allow unregistered e-bikes to travel at 30 mph with unlicenced riders when 30 mph moped riders have to suffer driving licences and the whole of motorcycle law? .

Everyone should remember this - the tories most certainly won't forget it and they will find another way to attack the working class: Tom

They say that's for the greater good. They're usually fatter you see. .

As others have been for nearly two decades now, not only without any sign of success but seeing ever diminishing prospects for it. That's what I've explained to you, it's a dead end with even more obstructions arriving soon. And as I posted, your case isn't valid, the halvings you speak of being impossible through the use of faster e-bikes. It's not a question of the government prefering cars. The public overwhelmingly prefer them and a very high proportion of our driving public hate bicycles and cyclists. In those circumstances how do you propose to miraculously convert half the drivers into cyclists? Our governments have very set policies in this area. For example the promotion of cycling in its present form through improved facilities, the expansion of urban 20 mph limit areas which more closely match car and bicycle speeds, the introduction of urban uncontrolled areas devoid of traffic lights and pavements when all users have to mix, watching out for each other by travelling very slowly, and strict speed limits out of town, often with flow regulated variable speed limits. Your proposal fits in with almost none of this, so do you really think the government will scrap it's entire roads strategy in favour of one e-bike speed limit increase? I'm sorry to be so harshly negative, but it's important to be realistic in pursuing change of this sort. Since as d8veh pointed out, we already have e-bikes moped registered with all the m/c legalities, the government will see no case for 30 limit e-bikes without those legal restrictions. .

Well that would be the best of a bad lot. Not as good as staying in mind....

Only this downside: